# “Your child needs to come with me for a bath.”

Discussion in 'Personal' started by MAGAorMIGA, Jun 17, 2018.

Like the Daily Mirror's famous pictures of Iraqi prisoners being tortured?
Photos are OK until they are fake or misused to promote an agenda.

2. ### Nanook_rubs_itStar commenter

That's why Ann Coulter (spits to side) prefers the narrative to be that they are 'child actors', just like the Sandy Hook victims.

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3. ### racroesusStar commenter

Yet the right in Indiana squared the circle and set pi equal to 3.

4. ### StiltskinStar commenter

The photo we're discussing isn't fake, or set up, or was misused (it matched the narrative which was the story of the woman and her child). But you may have some evidence to suggest otherwise?

5. ### sparkleghirlStar commenter

Not surprisingly there aren't very many photos of the children in the detention centres. A photo of a distressed child on the border was used to make a point that distressing things are happening to being done to children at the border.

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6. ### StiltskinStar commenter

Ooh in that case we can we do this then
Let
a=b

Multiply both sides by b,
ab=b^2

Subtract a^2 from both sides and factorize:
ab-a^2=b^2-a^2
a(b-a)=(b+a)(b-a)

Simplify and add 1 to both sides:
a=b+a
a+1=b+a+1

Now since a=b (the starting point of this proof), we can write this as:
a+1=a+a+1
a+1=2a+1

And in the case where a=1, we have:
1+1=2+1

So, therefore,
1+1=3

7. ### artboyusaStar commenter

Oh sure. She took her deportation insurance with her.

8. ### artboyusaStar commenter

Maths make me sad. I demand you stop doing them.

9. ### lanokiaStar commenter

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10. ### racroesusStar commenter

Beautiful.

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11. ### sparkleghirlStar commenter

Doesn't matter who's president, it's wrong.

And a cruicial difference is the separation. Previously families were very rarely separated, they were kept together in detention.

But that article demonstrates that the media didn't completely ignore the treatment of refugees under Obama only to turn on Trump now. It was wrong then and it's wrong now.

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12. ### lanokiaStar commenter

OK so we're just down to the separation angle... now my understanding is that separation is necessary because it combats the following:

- children being used by coyotes to make repeat journeys across the border enabling migrant crossings.
- children being trafficked across the border for purposes of child prostitution and slave labour [20,000pa]
- 80% of female migrants being raped while crossing the border.

So separating the children from the potential abusers, separating women from the men who might be raping them. Yes, this blanket approach will catch innocent people up in it. DNA testing is needed. Women being given a safe space in which they can talk about their ordeal is necessary.

As you are against the separation policy... how would you combat these problems?

13. ### Orkrider2Star commenter

It is not necessary.
For a start, while trafficking is a problem, presuming that every adult with a child is a trafficker and removing the child is not the way to cause less trauma for the children.
And It is certainly not necessary to send the children 2000 miles away and treat them as separate immigration cases from their parents, which means that reuniting them if they are legitimately related becomes a lot more difficult.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/20/nyregion/children-separated-border-new-york.html

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Don't I remember that Mr Trump's family were immigrants from Scotland? It's a pity they didn't take him away at the time - and perhaps send him back to Scotland - - -- well, a remote island of Scotland? Yes?

15. ### sparkleghirlStar commenter

Don't even think it.

17. ### racroesusStar commenter

Pity they weren't there for the first nation?

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18. ### MAGAorMIGAStar commenter

They used to say Congress was the "broken branch" of government in the USA. Now it's the Supreme Court, which is giving a green light to Presidents to misuse their powers, or stretch them beyond their absolute limit, as Commander-in-Chief with responsibility for national security, and also for Republican states to gerrymander their Congressional districts to their heart's content. As these justices sow, so shall they also reap, eventually.