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Discussion in 'Behaviour' started by abmiss, Feb 8, 2013.

  1. Hello - I wonder if anyone has any advice about how to deal with a 5 year old who removes his clothes in class?
    The only space available to remove the others in the class into is the hall which is open to all and used for drama and P.E. and cannot be set out as a learning space.
    This child, who has 3 older siblings in the school, has other challenging behaviours and - along with another 2 children - in class is making it nearly impossible for the class teacher to impart any skills or knowledge to the other 19 children she is trying to teach.
    I should state that the undressing has happened about 3 times recently and seemed to be an escalation of challenging behaviour but there has been a whole day (today) when he stayed dressed.
    The parents of the other children are getting fed up. At least two letters of complaint have been lodged. The parents of the main protagonists are resistant to seeing any problems with their child. One parent in particular believes that all her children are being picked on, and as a result will not allow any individual or group work on behaviour to be done with her child. This means that we cannot gather evidence via video and we cannot seek specific help.
    The class teacher is close to leaving the profession which is SUCH a shame as she is an excellent practitioner. The problems existed in nursery before they came to school. The higher levels of management expect the school to sort out the problems, the head teacher has recently moved on leaving the existing staff to cover her job as well as cover teaching committments.This means less support is available for the class than previously. Most of the classroom support time has been put in this class due to child protection issues. Other classes have strong needs for support too but their needs pale into insignificance compared to this class.
    The behaviour of the youngest in school is having an effect on the older children. We are about to impose a strict zero tolerance on playground times to bring the children back to where they know they should be.
    Another of the problems is that we understand that we should not be physically removing children but if we ask them to leave, go to another room etc. then they just point blank refuse. They also have no hesitiation about hitting out if anyone gets close enough to guide them out.
    The biggest issue is the three children in the class of the youngest children in school who feed off each other and have total disrespect/disdain for all adults in school.
    ANY positive ideas about how to make things more positive in the school would be welcome. We have tried many strategies, too many to mention here, so I may say we have tried ideas but that does not mean that they are any less welcome.
    I look forward to hearing from lots of you.
    Thank you in advance.

  2. GordonNome

    GordonNome New commenter

    Call mother to fetch him and dress him every time he undresses? If she refuses to come then leave him undressed but remove him to the office? If he assaults a member of staff then exclude him! (Sorry, sounds harsh, but if she is refusing to engage like this then I would report to Social Services as there is clearly some issue - and refusing to allow help for her child is tantamount to neglect)
  3. Tom_Bennett

    Tom_Bennett Occasional commenter

    Only time for a quick response here: what do you mean the parents won't let the school do any behaviour work? Schools are institutions run by (hopefully) professionals. We don't take orders from parents about how to deal with children within our boundaries. We have a job to do, and sometimes that means working with, or even against the parental wishes. That's just the job, especially if the parent is unwise.
    Do whatever you have to within the school. If the parent has an issue with it, she can remove the pupil to another institution that allows children to take their clothes off in lessons. Good luck with that, incidentally.
    Good luck
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  4. Some kids on the Autism Spectrum don't like the feel of clothes; is that a possible factor here?
  5. Tom - LA policy is that we can't refer to Ed Psych or get any other agencies involved without parental consent [​IMG]

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