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"You don't agree with me? You're a [insert deplorable thing here]!"

Discussion in 'Personal' started by Vince_Ulam, Dec 6, 2017.


Ever had a meeting or interview when you or another were randomly accused of something deplorable?

  1. Yes

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  1. Vince_Ulam

    Vince_Ulam Star commenter

    This video features actual footage from an October 2017 council meeting in New Brighton, Minnesota USA, during which one councilwoman virtue signals regarding "white privilege" for the benefit of the audience and cattiness ensues:

    You have to feel for councilwoman Gina Bauman, I can only hope she sues mayor Val Johnson for defamation. I can't say I have been in her situation but it's alarming how frequently ideas like "white privilege" and "trans rights" arise in meetings which have nothing to do with them. It's almost as though the brains of the uneducated & officious are colonised by crazy ideas. Richard Dawkins may have been onto something with memes.

    If you have ever experienced anything like this, whether you were the accused, a paper-shuffler or a face-palmer, how did it go?
  2. Didactylos4

    Didactylos4 Star commenter

    I was called a tory in one meeting not too long ago.
    Almost gave me a nasty turn but I stopped laughing just in time
    Moony likes this.
  3. MonMothma

    MonMothma Lead commenter

    I'll bite.

    White privilege is a thing. But I love the fact you have gone to all the effort of finding this interesting video for us to show.
  4. Flere-Imsaho

    Flere-Imsaho Star commenter

    Is it?
    Have you been view lots of US city council meetings to find this out or are you speaking from experience?
  5. MonMothma

    MonMothma Lead commenter

    You do realise the OP is a radical feminist :) But I don't think he believes in white privilege. I guess that means he doesn't believe in male privilege either.

    Which is somewhat at odds with his radical feminist views on his other recent thread.
    Moony likes this.
  6. Vince_Ulam

    Vince_Ulam Star commenter

    Selectively quote me harder! Do it harder! Give it to me!
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  7. MonMothma

    MonMothma Lead commenter


    Privilege is a thing. It's possible to experience all kinds of privilege. But it's also possible not to experience privilege because other groups have it and people can belong to a group that doesn't get that kind of privilege.

    It helps to sometimes see the world through different eyes or to listen to people from different groups to understand how privilege works.

    But I guess you know that - given the amount of time you must have spent talking to feminists. Do you ever speak to other activists from oppressed groups?
  8. Vince_Ulam

    Vince_Ulam Star commenter

    Yes, privilege is a thing. "White privilege" is not a thing.
    woollani and artboyusa like this.
  9. Didactylos4

    Didactylos4 Star commenter

    Other opinions are available
  10. Flere-Imsaho

    Flere-Imsaho Star commenter

    Is it really that frequent?
    Have you been viewing lots of US city council meetings to find this out or are you speaking from experience?

  11. MonMothma

    MonMothma Lead commenter

    Cognitive dissonance at work

    (But white privilege needs to be taken in context of being in a country where white people are the ones with power)
  12. sbkrobson

    sbkrobson Star commenter

    How patronising-a video of some people talking and a large head in the bottom of the screen telling us...no, shouting at us... what they are talking about and doing, even though they are visible and audible.
    Never mind racially based privilege, what a truly awful piece of viewing. It strips anybody of the ability to listen to those people properly because of that ***** in the corner.

    Edit- a complete nothing has been asterisked out! Who knew!
    nomad and Moony like this.
  13. Vince_Ulam

    Vince_Ulam Star commenter

    Try to imagine which is the more likely answer that most people would assume and then proceed from there.
    woollani likes this.
  14. Mangleworzle

    Mangleworzle Star commenter

    I've never been in a meeting where white privilege or trans rights have been mentioned.
    Calpurnia99, nomad, Laphroig and 2 others like this.
  15. Vince_Ulam

    Vince_Ulam Star commenter

    What "power"?
    woollani likes this.
  16. red_observer

    red_observer Star commenter

    Omg that’s very worrying!;)
  17. bombaysapphire

    bombaysapphire Star commenter

    Nor have I.
  18. lanokia

    lanokia Star commenter

    ''White privilege'' is an ideological tool of the American Left... a shutdown phrase for any person [of white racial origin] who criticises Progressive political positions.

    Any creep into UK political discourse needs to be resisted. Usually it is a sign that the person speaking has no actual rebuttal but has had to resort to racialist thinking in an effort to ''win''. It's collectivist nonsense from people who can't discern individuals.
    woollani, artboyusa and Vince_Ulam like this.
  19. MonMothma

    MonMothma Lead commenter

    Beats me...
    bombaysapphire likes this.
  20. MonMothma

    MonMothma Lead commenter

    Can we get on to the pay gap yet?

    There's the BME pay gap.
    The gender pay gap.
    Disabled pay gap.

    I wonder if that has anything to do with privilege?

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