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Yet MORE testing...

Discussion in 'Education news' started by chelsea2, Nov 3, 2015.

  1. chelsea2

    chelsea2 Star commenter

    Nicky Morgan's latest:

    More 'rigorous' tests for 7 year olds, externally marked.
    90% of pupils will have to do all the subjects of the so-called 'English baccalaureate.

    Those poor, poor pupils.
  2. Middlemarch

    Middlemarch Star commenter

    And the turning back of the education clock to the 80s, when all our woe began, is almost complete.
  3. Kartoshka

    Kartoshka Established commenter

    Why do the government seem to think that testing is the answer to all education's problems? Tests show what pupils can do; they, in themselves, don't actually help pupils to achieve more.
    cherryaimless and needabreak like this.
  4. lanokia

    lanokia Star commenter

    Testing is a politicians response... not an educators response.

    Testing produces something measurable, statistics and if externally marked then they have even greater credence. Testing permits external organisations to come in, contracts for companies to bid on, test to be written, produced, marked etc.

    It's a make-work response, probably a lobbyist for a publishing company or educational resources publisher has been having a word.

    Only one exam really matters... the last one they sit in education. These tests, at 7 years old, will have zero meaning. But they'll cause more stress for pupils [and at 7 who really needs stress], for teachers and create more bureaucracy.

  5. Yoda-

    Yoda- Lead commenter

    “The boy you trained, gone he is. Consumed by Darth DATA !"
    Anonymity, needabreak and lanokia like this.
  6. spartacus123

    spartacus123 Occasional commenter

    So they've got rid of levels but want more testing?

    You couldn't make it up. Why not look at the underlying issues rather than just say testing.
  7. lanokia

    lanokia Star commenter

    Because... testing brah!
  8. spartacus123

    spartacus123 Occasional commenter

    I think that education advert needs to be rewritten to include data. And testing. And retesting.

    What does a teacher make? They make pupils do lots of tests.
    Missbubbleblue likes this.
  9. RedQuilt

    RedQuilt Star commenter

    I want to weep :(
  10. Middlemarch

    Middlemarch Star commenter

    lanokia likes this.
  11. Compassman

    Compassman Star commenter

    You do not fatten a pig by weighing it all the time.
  12. snowyhead

    snowyhead Lead commenter

    I suspect our PM has heard that a few times over the past month. I've seen the photos of him 'weighing' a pig.
  13. Yoda-

    Yoda- Lead commenter

    Not all pigs can be weighed.
    Camokidmommy likes this.
  14. Dragonlady30

    Dragonlady30 Star commenter

    It's heart breaking, just heart breaking.

    Guess it will be used by some heads as just another stick to beat the staff.
  15. Compassman

    Compassman Star commenter

    What? You got the photos? The press will be interested!
  16. Compassman

    Compassman Star commenter

    Of course it will like most things in education.
  17. spartacus123

    spartacus123 Occasional commenter

    The Vorderman report on maths teaching suggested that testing in the form of SATS be scrapped because it encourages teaching to the test.


    Endorsed by Gove

    Summary Finding 4E

    The Key Stage 2 National Test (SAT) in its current form should end. Research has suggested that most schools focus their mathematics education for a minimum of two terms on teaching to the test due to league table pressures: thus, SATs can actually depress mathematical standards. In addition, most secondary schools pay no attention to the results the SATs produce, and re-test children upon entry at age 11 using a number of other, completely different examinations. Secondary schools then use these new non-SAT results to put the children into their sets. In our view, these transitional arrangements have become farcical.

    We understand that government requires some method of monitoring schools but the current system is to the detriment of children’s mathematical education. Shockingly, for a third of children, their first year in their new secondary school (Year 7) will result in no improvement in their mathematical standard. This means that for a vast swathe of each cohort, almost two years of schooling
    results in no progress in their mathematics. This situation must be addressed urgently and a new transitional arrangements put in place where the child is regarded as the most important element, not some bureaucratic system of accountability.

    Of course, this recommendation has been ignored repeatedly.
    NQT1986 and chelsea2 like this.
  18. chelsea2

    chelsea2 Star commenter

    No doubt the Government will be able to find money to implement this more extensive & rigorous testing - whilst schools are getting rid of TAs & increasing class sizes because budgets are so tight.
    NQT1986 likes this.
  19. Camokidmommy

    Camokidmommy Established commenter

    Here I sit, gently weeping into my glass of wine, thinking "OMG can it actually get any worse?". Maybe 2 glasses of wine needed tonight....
    monicabilongame and guinnesspuss like this.
  20. lanokia

    lanokia Star commenter

    The man from DfE, he say yes!

    Yoda- likes this.

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