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Y1 Phonics Screening - suggestions of what to include in homework pack

Discussion in 'Primary' started by LITTLEMISSMONKEY, Feb 1, 2017.

  1. Msz

    Msz Established commenter

    That and a lot of guessing
     
  2. derek_underwood79

    derek_underwood79 Occasional commenter

    I agree with all of this. I think that you are misunderstanding my position. I am a huge fan of synthetic phonics. I teach children to use syllables in reading and writing. I use Sounds Write who I believe were very involved in the PSC. I think you are assuming too much and not reading what I am actually saying.
     
  3. Msz

    Msz Established commenter

    They werent
     
  4. derek_underwood79

    derek_underwood79 Occasional commenter

    They told me the were. Especially the psuedo words. SW use pseudo words.
     
  5. derek_underwood79

    derek_underwood79 Occasional commenter

    Let us take a word like 'instead' the ea can represent ay or ee or e. Children will use context and meaning to work out which one it is. That is all I was saying about meaning. You disagree?
     
  6. Msz

    Msz Established commenter

    If you're Sounds Write trained you should know that they don't need context to read instead. They would try the most common sound represented by the spelling insteed o_Othen alternatives Instaid o_O.insted :)
     
  7. derek_underwood79

    derek_underwood79 Occasional commenter

    Yes you are right for this word. It was a poor choice. How about words that can be read two or more ways. I am a little distracted by the rugby. So a word that has a spelling that can represent two or more sounds and each sound gives you a plausible word.
    This is from the article you linked to me and I agree with it. I think it supports what I am saying.

    The Simple View of Reading holds that successful reading requires both decoding skills and comprehension. Children should be equipped to read using skills of decoding and inferencing, not inferencing (aka guessing in some cases) alone, along with a long list of learned-by-sight words.
     
  8. Msz

    Msz Established commenter

    As I said context is useful for homographs read and read
     
  9. derek_underwood79

    derek_underwood79 Occasional commenter

    You said homophones if I recall. So, again we agree. That was what I was saying all along.
     
  10. Msz

    Msz Established commenter

    Inference for comprehension great
     
  11. Msz

    Msz Established commenter

    Context helps to know if you should write there, their or they're homophones
     
  12. derek_underwood79

    derek_underwood79 Occasional commenter

    We can also agree that if high quality synthetic phonics was taught consistently for all children then there would be no need for a national check?
     
  13. Msz

    Msz Established commenter

    There shouldn't be a need
     
  14. derek_underwood79

    derek_underwood79 Occasional commenter

    What a shame. I haven't learned anything new and I thought I would.
     
  15. Msz

    Msz Established commenter

    You learnt Sounds Write weren't involved in the PSC

    Do suggest you read Stanislaw Dehaene Reading in the Brain

    Unfortunately most research is behind paywalls
     
  16. derek_underwood79

    derek_underwood79 Occasional commenter

    I wonder why their trainer told me that they were? Thank you for the recommendation.
     
  17. Msz

    Msz Established commenter

    Who was your trainer?
     
  18. Msz

    Msz Established commenter

    Doug Lemov Reading Reconsidered also worth reading
     
  19. derek_underwood79

    derek_underwood79 Occasional commenter

    I can't remember her name. I thought she was very good, her name is on the tip of my tongue. Derrie (Derry?) was her first name.
     
  20. Msz

    Msz Established commenter

    Derrie Clark I'm surprised if she said tgat
     

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