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XR Education in protest at DfE

Discussion in 'Personal' started by Maths_Shed, Oct 21, 2019.

  1. Maths_Shed

    Maths_Shed Occasional commenter

  2. Maths_Shed

    Maths_Shed Occasional commenter

  3. lanokia

    lanokia Star commenter

    Yup... when I taught Geography and Science [I'm very talented you know] I loved the lessons where I knowingly lied about climate change to the kids... how we laughed it up in 'Evil Conspiracist Teachers inc.' meetings as we counted our dirty dirty oil money.
  4. Scintillant

    Scintillant Star commenter

    No one has said you haven't taught the facts about climate change etc

    They are saying that it should be taught to all children.

    Which it should.
  5. Jude Fawley

    Jude Fawley Star commenter

    They'll need me to return to the chalkface otherwise they'll get someone giving them false hope and spinning it out over three lectures.

    It's the beginning of a great adventure.

  6. Aquamarina1234

    Aquamarina1234 Star commenter

    If returning to the England of my grandparents is either great or an adventure.
  7. lizziescat

    lizziescat Star commenter

    1. Policy must be informed and instructed by ordinary people via a Citizens’ Assembly and we must hear the voices of young people whose future now hangs in the balance.
    Am I the only person who was alarmed by this part. The scenes of mob action, simplistic understanding come to mind.
    I’d prefer policy to be informed by serious consideration of what experts say - people who have studied for years , researched, measured etc,

    This clause smacks of , who shouts loudest wins
    phlogiston, Kandahar and lanokia like this.
  8. lanokia

    lanokia Star commenter

    We live in the age of the squeaky wheel
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  9. Maths_Shed

    Maths_Shed Occasional commenter

    With the prospect of environmental collapse, food shortages, violence, wars and disease, why would the education of the people running the country be alarming? People like that have got us to where we are.
  10. Kandahar

    Kandahar Lead commenter

    And people like you have cost the tax payer in excess of £37 million through your childish antics so far.
  11. Scintillant

    Scintillant Star commenter

    If climate change is addressed sooner rather than later, thanks to the "childish antics" of such people, then they may have saved us untold millions already...
  12. phlogiston

    phlogiston Star commenter

    I thought it was.
    Part of the problem was people not listening when I taught the stuff. Govey's curriculum changes didn't help.
    We have already made a lot of changes and a country. There's a lot more renewable energy now - would have been more if Cameron's lot hadn't slashed the fees in tariffs for solar power.
    It's a lot easier to go and yell on the street than to learn that dealing with climate change means making sacrifices yourself.
  13. lanokia

    lanokia Star commenter

    On the other hand... radio carried a report today about a government funded energy storage project using wind to compress air into liquid air and then reheating at night when energy was needed to supply 55000 homes.

    And while Cameron's cuts on solar were unfortunate they were necessitated by Labour's profligacy while in office.
  14. Scintillant

    Scintillant Star commenter

    It is in the National Curriculum

    .....which academies and free schools do not have to follow.
  15. Maths_Shed

    Maths_Shed Occasional commenter

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  16. Jude Fawley

    Jude Fawley Star commenter

    The real tragedy is that the generation presently in primary school won't be the last unless we teach them to stop producing more of our species.

    Of course talking to the kids is just sidestepping the necessity of destroying ourselves. We need to take courage and finish ourselves off now.

    More do as we do and not do as we say.

    Lead by example. No more kids and kill ourselves. It's the only hope for the other species. The planet will be alright.

    Deal with the cause and not the effect.

    I'll go first to avoid the carnage.
  17. lanokia

    lanokia Star commenter

    Another one who believes other people's carbon emissions are our fault. So it's just an excuse to be anti-western really... not about the environment at all...
    Kandahar likes this.
  18. Maths_Shed

    Maths_Shed Occasional commenter

    No, in the same way as you refuse to accept it's about consumption of resources and not population size, you are refusing to accept it's about consumption and not where the goods are produced.
    Scintillant likes this.
  19. Scintillant

    Scintillant Star commenter

    Another ridiculously simple view of things.

    Accounting for outsourced emissions is precisely how experts in carbon budgets say emissions should be totalled. It has been a thing for a decade at least.

    Britain now G7's biggest net importer of CO2 emissions per capita, says ONS Fall in UK-produced emissions has been offset by those from increase in imported products

    It doesn't matter where the emissions come from, they have the same effect. Demand needs to reduce. To view this as "anti-western" or to see at as "other people's emissions" is just wrong.

    From 2011:
    Government should be open about 'outsourced emissions' according to Committee

    The MPs warn that:

    • UK's record on cutting greenhouse gases is not as good as DECC figures suggest
    • Carbon dioxide emissions from imported goods consumed in the UK are going up faster than Government is cutting CO2 at home
    • Government figures on consumption-based emissions - from imported goods - show that carbon dioxide emissions in 2009 were 20% higher than in 1990.
    Tim Yeo MP, Chair of the Energy and Climate Change Committee, said:

    "Successive governments have claimed to be cutting climate-changing emissions, but in fact a lot of pollution has simply been outsourced overseas.The Department for Energy and Climate Change likes to argue that the UK is only responsible for 2% of the world's CO2 emissions, but the Government’s own research shows this not to be the case.We get through more consumer goods than ever before in the UK and this is pushing up emissions in manufacturing countries like China."

    We need to reduce consumption.

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