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Would you trust American firms with the NHS?

Discussion in 'Personal' started by monicabilongame, Sep 19, 2018.

  1. monicabilongame

    monicabilongame Star commenter

    Ministers should allow American healthcare companies to compete with the NHS to run hospitals as part of a free-trade pact after Brexit, a think tank recommends.

    The Initiative for Free Trade (IFT) said that Britain should also end its ban on imports of products such as chlorinated chicken and accept American environmental and food safety regulations as equivalent to those in the UK.

  2. InkyP

    InkyP Star commenter

    I wouldn't trust them with anything.
  3. Nanook_rubs_it

    Nanook_rubs_it Star commenter

  4. Doitforfree

    Doitforfree Star commenter

    God no.

    My american relatives have endless pointless checks and treatments when they are hale and heart but also rich and extravagently insured. Yet you don't get one to one nursing in the States because it's too expensive, not even in intensive care or if you're ventilated.
    Laphroig and Dragonlady30 like this.
  5. racroesus

    racroesus Star commenter

    So Daniel, Liam and Boris are openly planning to sell us down the river.
    Laphroig likes this.
  6. grumpydogwoman

    grumpydogwoman Star commenter

  7. oldsomeman

    oldsomeman Star commenter

  8. Vince_Ulam

    Vince_Ulam Star commenter

    Not for one moment.
    Dragonlady30 likes this.
  9. racroesus

    racroesus Star commenter

    And that will just be the starter for selling off Financial services and Fintech.
  10. chelsea2

    chelsea2 Star commenter

    You get what 17.4 million voted for - the law of unintended consequences.....
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  11. bonxie

    bonxie Lead commenter

    American health care companies will only want to run UK hospitals if they can expect to make a significant profit out of doing so. That profit will be at the expense of UK taxpayers. Why on earth would ministers think that's a good idea? Unless, of course, they'd be hoping to invest in those American companies so they can take a share of the profits too.
    InkyP and monicabilongame like this.
  12. grumpydogwoman

    grumpydogwoman Star commenter

    A new thinktank pushing “the moral case for open commerce” that has close ties to a network of climate science deniers instrumental in pushing for Brexit is due to be launched by foreign secretary Boris Johnson inside the Foreign Office today.

    The Institute for Free Trade (IFT) “sees Britain’s withdrawal from the European Union as a unique opportunity to revitalise the world trading system”, according to its website.

    The IFT is based at 57 Tufton Street, sharing an office with the anti-renewables thinktank the Centre for Policy Studies, and next door to many of the organisations DeSmog UK previously revealed to be at the heart of a UK climate science denial network in 55 Tufton Street.

    The IFT's president is Tory MEP Daniel Hannan who last year spoke at an event hosted by US thinktank the Heritage Foundation, which is known for opposing climate action and environmental regulations and was at the heart of Donald Trump's transition team in the weeks before he became president.

    At the event, Hannan said “spoiled millennials” and “global regulation” imposed by NGOs stand in the way of agreeing a bilateral US-UK trade deal. DeSmog UK has previously mapped the strong links between the UK’s pro-Brexit figures and USclimate science deniers.

    The Heritage Foundation has links to trade secretary Liam Fox, who is also due to speak at the IFT’s launch tonight. The Heritage Foundation also hosted an event at the Conservative Party Conference last year with another Tufton St resident, the Taxpayers Alliance.

    Climate-change deniers.

    Just the sort to promote this kind of agenda. That's all I need to know. But good to see it finally acknowledged. It'll be official Tory policy before 2020. Coz let's face it. We save all that money by not belonging to the EU. We put it into the NHS. We give the NHS at cut-price to those lovely investors! Marvellous!
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  13. Vince_Ulam

    Vince_Ulam Star commenter

    We all know the Conservative Party is a bunch of self-interested ****** from top to bottom - so why do people keep voting for them?
  14. Vince_Ulam

    Vince_Ulam Star commenter

    This was intended from the start.
  15. chelsea2

    chelsea2 Star commenter

    Wow. Just Wow.
    And is the climate change deniers network really called DeSmog? Couldn't make it up!

    @grumpydogwoman do you have the link to your quote?
  16. Jolly_Roger15

    Jolly_Roger15 Star commenter

    Would this not turn into 'MATs with bedpans'? Pocket-liners raking off huge profits while services decline.

    The IFT are as loony as the Flat Earth Society, except they are much more dangerous. Politics in this country is becoming like those of a banana republic. Some of those in politics now are just out for self-aggrandisement and self-enrichment: if doing so means suborning an entire country, so be it; collateral damage.

    it beggars belief, and b*ggers the rest of us!
    Last edited: Sep 19, 2018
  17. grumpydogwoman

    grumpydogwoman Star commenter

  18. Wotton

    Wotton Lead commenter

  19. lanokia

    lanokia Star commenter


    I'd also not trust European, Asian, African or South American ones... and British ones too.

    Did I miss anyone? Penguins?
  20. MAGAorMIGA

    MAGAorMIGA Star commenter

    If this happened, expect the drug companies to pile in as well - vast profits to be made, as the prescription system is derailed by free-market ideology.

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