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Worth an application?

Discussion in 'Independent' started by Tildabe, Sep 15, 2011.

  1. Tildabe

    Tildabe New commenter

    Have seen a 'perfect' job advertised - it ticks every box for me and I tick all of job spec requirements bar one. I don't currently have the experience to teach 3 specified sports to match standard. I'm not too sure what this means either - is it a subtle way of saying has played at county standard, has organised teams and sporting opportunities, teaches PE?!? (I'm currently assuming the former...)
    I am not a natural sportsman - I ride and have (in my youth!) evented and showjumped at county standard but that was a very long time ago and unfortunately is not one of the specified sports. However, I enjoy teaching PE, am running a just set up tag rugby club with a colleague and have participated in local cluster tournaments in cricket last year with our school cricket club and I'm keen and happy to develop this area of my teaching practice.
    So the question is - is it worth an application? I don't want to ruin my chances of applying for a future post because I applied for this one knowing that one of the essential qualities I could not, at the point of applicatio, fully fulfil even though it is something I would be more than prepared to invest in developing?
     
  2. Tildabe

    Tildabe New commenter

    Have seen a 'perfect' job advertised - it ticks every box for me and I tick all of job spec requirements bar one. I don't currently have the experience to teach 3 specified sports to match standard. I'm not too sure what this means either - is it a subtle way of saying has played at county standard, has organised teams and sporting opportunities, teaches PE?!? (I'm currently assuming the former...)
    I am not a natural sportsman - I ride and have (in my youth!) evented and showjumped at county standard but that was a very long time ago and unfortunately is not one of the specified sports. However, I enjoy teaching PE, am running a just set up tag rugby club with a colleague and have participated in local cluster tournaments in cricket last year with our school cricket club and I'm keen and happy to develop this area of my teaching practice.
    So the question is - is it worth an application? I don't want to ruin my chances of applying for a future post because I applied for this one knowing that one of the essential qualities I could not, at the point of applicatio, fully fulfil even though it is something I would be more than prepared to invest in developing?
     
  3. Karvol

    Karvol Occasional commenter

    When public schools advertise for sports staff to coach - as opposed to manage - a team, they are very serious about it.
    In my last school in the UK, the hockey coach was an international playing for Wales, the rugby coach was a professional sidelined through injury ( who is now coaching the English seven's team ) and the cricket coach was an international playing for New Zealand. These were major sports and they were taken very seriously - seriously enough for kids to miss academic classes for matches.
    Now there were also minor sports, which weren't taken as seriously. I coached the squash team without holding any distinguishing honours in the sport ( other than knowing which end of the racquet to hold ).
    Be honest with yourself, and if you do not think it is a serious handicap, then go for it.
     
  4. There's nothing to stop you throwing in an application, but echo what the other replier has said: Many private schools do care about sport (almost obsessively so).
    In my own we have two ex-professional rugby players and a Cambridge blue. In cricket we have many who have played for their university.
     
  5. trinity0097

    trinity0097 New commenter

    Is it in a prep school or a senior school?
    If you are already teaching PE and are confident in the rules/coaching needed for the 3 sports then go ahead and apply would be my opinion, OK so if they find someone they like that they prefer you won't get the job, but there's always that risk anyway!
     
  6. florian gassmann

    florian gassmann Star commenter

    It sounds like you are a PE specialist but, like Trinity, I'm not sure if the job you are going for is in the prep or senior sector. If the former, you should certainly go for it.
    If it's the latter, I recommend looking at the sports reports and fixture lists on the school's website (they almost all have them). If they're up there with schools like Whitgift, regularly playing in finals at Twickenham and providing training facilities for the Olympics, you can be pretty sure that they're looking for professional sportsmen.
    However, if they're looking for three specialisations I doubt that that is the case, especially if their fixtures are mainly against very local schools. It's more likely that they want someone who can administer (no small task) the fixture list, and run the first teams (training and reffing/umpiring), while academic staff (with an interest in sport) run the rest.
     
  7. Tildabe

    Tildabe New commenter

    Hi, I'm actually a maths specialist and currently work in a primary school - the job is for a KS2 teacher in a prep school hence my confusion over what sort of experience they were looking for with repect to the sport... They also specified a maths A level (which I have)!
    However, my main concern was that they'd be looking for someone with extensive playing and coaching experience in these sports which is what made me hesitate as this is something I don't have beyond normal PE lessons and teaching. I'll phone HR tomorrow and clarify the experience think but suspect this sadly will not be the job for me due to the sporting experience.
     
  8. florian gassmann

    florian gassmann Star commenter

    And they want a specialism in three sports!
    My receptors are telling me that they are hoping to pay a single salary for what many schools would expect to for pay two or three staff. If so, it could be a sign of a school in financial difficulties and perhaps best avoided. I wouldn't necessarily be sad.
     

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