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Working in the Middle East

Discussion in 'NQTs and new teachers' started by rabiiaaaa, Mar 22, 2016.

  1. rabiiaaaa

    rabiiaaaa New commenter

    I've been offered a position at two schools in Qatar. Ones located in Al khor and the other one in Al Wakra. Both offer a similar package? Any advice? One school is a GEMS school and the other one is owned by Rasgas.
    Any advice would be appreciated.
  2. Roseea123

    Roseea123 New commenter

    I have a friend who worked at al khor and she liked it but others say differently. Her advice is head down and just get on with it. After researching I've found Gems have some bad reviews. Have you had a look at ***. Saying that I would take it all with a pinch of salt. I think that Al khor would be a great chance to get out there and see where things take you. Others may disagree. Good luck.
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  3. John_in_Luton

    John_in_Luton Occasional commenter

    My advice is to get a couple of years' experience in the uk before going out to the gulf states, as the better schools out there will require this. With less experience, you might not find the school lives up to everything you hope it will be...
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  4. Roseea123

    Roseea123 New commenter

    The post doesn't say u are new to teaching. Are u new? Best to do the NQT year in the UK. Otherwise just do your research and chat to people on this forum who have lots of great advice. :)
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  5. Roseea123

    Roseea123 New commenter

    Sorry just realised this is the thread for new teachers. I thought I was still in the overseas one. So yes definitely go with John_in_Luton's advice. Get your Nqt year done at least before u consider moving. There is more advice on the overseas forum.
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  6. rabiiaaaa

    rabiiaaaa New commenter

    Thank you for your advice everyone Yes I am a NQT and the only reason I didn't want to complete my NQT here in the Uk was due to pressure and the work load. The extended hours and near enough no pay after all the deductions have been taken. The ever changing curriculum and regulations make it really hard to pass the NQT year
  7. the hippo

    the hippo Lead commenter Community helper

    Yes, rabiiaaa, of course there are plenty of people who will say, "The sensible thing to do is to complete your NQT year in the UK." After all, everyone knows that your NQT year in the UK is just one big picnic, without any difficulties or problems of any kind. (All pigs refuelled and ready for take-off.)

    Having taught in the UK, Kenya, Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Romania, the UAE, Qatar and now China, I would say that teaching in an international school beats teaching in the UK any day of the week. After all, teaching in the UK must be rubbish because the UK government advertisements that are trying to encourage people to do it.

    Most schools in the ME provide their teachers with free or subsidised accommodation, but I do not think that you will find many schools in the UK that do anything like that. After you have done two or three years overseas, most principals of international schools will not care whether or not you have done your NQT year in the UK. If you decide to go down the PYP / IB road, then your NQT year becomes even more irrelevant. Yes, I suppose that doing your NQT year in the UK might be important if you were planning to teach in the UK at some point, but who would be so foolish as to want to do that?

    I have had many messages and e-mails from teachers in the UK who are interested in teaching overseas. It is usually the same story: rude and lazy students, aggressive parents, useless SLTs, more pointless meetings, pointless paperwork, yet another flipping OFSTED, crazy house prices, lousy weather, VAT on just about everything, constant abuse of teachers in the media, students sending porno selfies on their mobiles, losing all of your free lessons because you have to cover for colleagues who have depression etc., etc. And please do not get me started on the subject of Council Tax.
  8. the hippo

    the hippo Lead commenter Community helper

    “Of all the occupations I’ve studied, and that’s about 80, teachers are in the top three most stressed occupations,” he said. “The hours are long and antisocial, the workload is heavy and there is change for change’s sake from various governments.”

    This quotation is from Sir Cary Cooper, Professor of Psychiatry at Manchester University. You can read the whole article in this week's TES. Teaching in the UK, zdaea? No thank you.
  9. John_in_Luton

    John_in_Luton Occasional commenter

    I think many of us old hands on here are familiar with Hippo's take on teaching in the UK. There is, however, one major factor to take into account, and it is this. None of us knows what the future may hold, and if you find yourself returning to the UK at some point, it would be wise to have got your NQT year out of the way first, in order to make yourself more employable back here.

    That's assuming, of course, that there is still an NQT year in the future, but none of us has a crystal ball that good, I suspect.

    And, by the way, although Hippo may argue to the contrary, anything can happen. I've taught in almost as many countries as Hippo (and probably more schools, as I've later returned to work in different cities in three of the countries I've lived in), and I didn't see myself returning to the UK for a long time, yet here I am...
  10. the hippo

    the hippo Lead commenter Community helper

    Yes, John_in_Luton, it is of course possible that an expat teacher may consider returning to the UK. I have known several teachers who have done this. Yes, of course it is good to see your family and friends. However, it will not be long before you start thinking about why you left the UK in the first place.

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