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Working in KS2 in NQT year, trained in FP

Discussion in 'Personal' started by hannahmariejohnson93, Dec 1, 2019.

  1. primaryhj123

    primaryhj123 New commenter


    Just looking for some advice as I'm finding my nqt year unbearable and considering handing my notice in.

    I worked as a 1:1 TA 2 years and then specialised in foundation phase when completing my PGCE.

    My current job is based in a Year 4 class(I honestly dont know why they hired me without any ks2 experience!)
    Everything is new to me. I find the expectations of the school too much. The majority of staff stay until 6pm every night and will continue working at home. I find myself taking a lot of books home to mark as it's impossible to read through everything in school hours.

    My question is: has anyone left their teaching post mid term and gone on to a different school or done supply? I'm really missing working in foundation phase and really want to go back to that. I know it will look bad on my cv as it will look as though I can't handle challenge, but I'm just losing my love for teaching as I'm not teaching the age range that I trained in :(
    I should also mention I have spoken to the head and the deputy about this and they've given me some support but theres not much you can do when you're not enjoying the job!

    TIA for any advice or support :)
  2. Lara mfl 05

    Lara mfl 05 Star commenter

    The problem is, I think with your expectations and you may well find any school is the same.

    Any Primary teacher is 'qualified' to teach any age range and many schools do like to swap teachers around every couple of years to gain experience in all the phases. Hence why you were hired without Yr 4 experience.

    Many teachers whose main training has been in KS2 presently teaching KS1 may be feeling out of their depth in a different way. Even experienced teachers who have just taught in one phase in a previous school and have moved. It's all part of the job of Primary teaching.

    And yes Year 4 do produce more work needing making every day / evening in Maths and English to adapt your planning, apart from the other Foundation subjects, which will need marking probably once a week. And UKS2 will produce even more, which in the future you could be asked to teach.

    So in relation to your question
    my worry would be that when asked why you left, if giving your answer, a Head may well not consider appointing you for the above mentioned reasons.
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  3. jubilee

    jubilee Star commenter

    My sister trained in FS. She was employed in that stage for her first two years in teaching and was then told, with plenty of notice, that she'd be moved to KS2 the following year. She wanted to stay with the younger age group and didn't want the same thing happening again in another job.
    She moved to a Children's Centre that was linked to a school, where she was secure in her FS role.
    Select your next job carefully.
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  4. oldsomeman

    oldsomeman Star commenter

    When I first started teaching over 43 years ago I was middle school (primary trained) but ended up in a Comprehensive with little experience of such a position but actually fitted in and moved quickly to H of Dep.
    Left teaching to work for myself, and then into Primary via supply.
    During the 30 plus years spent as a teacher one constantly had changes. In the end, one has to adapt and learn quickly. So much so I have taught the whole set of years from foundation to Year 6. Each one was a challenge, each one had problems, each one demanded different things and at the same time one had to adapt to new ideas, schemes, situations, behaviour, marking etc,
    Personally, I would recommend that you stay in post as it shows at least your determination to skill yourself for the situation. Remember, it will take you a few years to become competent and the struggles now should be seen more as a measure of your competence to adapt to all levels.
    Can you not find a teacher who might guide you or old planning lessons which might give you idea and methods of setting out work.
    If you SMT/head is sympathetic you might ask for help, although you must realise it may seem a vulnerable position. If you are an NQT you should be monitored anyway, but today schools (mirroring industry) expect you to come in fully trained.
    If you are able to give your notice you won't leave till Easter. If you walk out of the job then you might not get a reference and find work hard to get so it bears consideration.
    So stay if you can and prove your capable or leave and hope someone will have sympathy on you. The choice has to be yours.
    As a final note, I used to love year 4. They still had infants in them but were growing up, and had a huge interest in learning and attaining, But I won't bore you with life from days gone by, but of all years I miss their year and Nursery teaching.
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  5. Corvuscorax

    Corvuscorax Star commenter

    I agree, you will be moved around a lot. I am secondary, and it is quite normal, from day one, to be in situations you have not trained for, in my case trained in maths, timetabled to teach sex education, etc.

    You may well also not get any A level experience when training, but may well get A level on your timetable the first week, not get year 11 experience until you are qualified, and so on.

    I am secondary trained, but have found myself in an all through school, teaching literacy to year 2, so you just have to go with it.
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  6. chelsea2

    chelsea2 Star commenter

    You won't be able to leave 'mid-term'. Given that teaching resignations have to be in by certain dates, your earliest chance of leaving now is to resign by the end of February to leave at Easter.

    As it's your NQT year, you must be being mentored, and have some idea how you're doing. If you're online to pass, I'd stay and finish your year to get your QTS. If you're failing, ask the school & LA mentor for support, and try and find another school for after Easter.
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  7. jubilee

    jubilee Star commenter

    The OP already has QTS, as do all NQTs who are on an Induction programme.
    Failing Induction would, however, mean never being able to teach in the State 5-16 compulsory sector ever again. Teaching the Under-5s and the Post-16 pupils would be possible in the State sector, as would all private school teaching
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  8. celago22

    celago22 Established commenter

    I think you should try to finish your NQT year where you are. If you moved jobs, it could be hard to go into a FS class mid-year and try to get used to a new school, new mentor, new environment, setting up new expectations, getting to know your class, their needs etc. I know it doesn't seem like it now but the easiest option for you is to stay on and finish your nqt year. Then look for your absolute dream job in FS over the Easter holidays/May half term. In my NQT year I was ready to leave in October but I stayed on and completed the academic year. I left and started at a different school in September and am just about to leave that one! You never know what will happen in the future and some stability and continuity will look good on your cv.
  9. lindenlea

    lindenlea Star commenter

    I can appreciate it must be tough just now but my advice is, as above, stick it out and look for what you want for next year. This is brilliant experience and will look great on your cv along with your FS training.
    Lara mfl 05 likes this.
  10. nizebaby

    nizebaby Star commenter

    I still think it'a a bit rough.

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