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Woman who bore rapist’s baby faces 20 years in El Salvador jail

Discussion in 'Personal' started by FrankWolley, Nov 12, 2018.

  1. FrankWolley

    FrankWolley Star commenter

    Want a story to get angry over? Try this one...

    NB I'll blame (in major part) the Catholic Church (as well as the abuser, of course - who has yet to be charged).


    https://www.theguardian.com/global-...years-in-el-salvador-imelda-cortez?CMP=twt_gu


    A rape victim is facing 20 years in jail charged with attempted murder, after she gave birth to her abuser’s baby in a latrine in El Salvador.

    In a case that highlights the rigidity of the country’s abortion laws, Imelda Cortez, 20, from an impoverished rural family in San Miguel, has been in custody since April 2017 after giving birth to a baby girl fathered by her abusive elderly stepfather.

    Cortez was rushed to hospital after her mother discovered her in severe pain and bleeding heavily. The emergency room doctor suspected an abortion and called the police. Officers found the baby healthy and alive.

    Cortez had been abused by her 70-year-old stepfather since she was 12 years old and said she had no idea she was pregnant. The baby survived, but Cortez was charged with attempted murder, denied bail and sent to jail after a week in hospital.
     
  2. catmother

    catmother Star commenter

  3. Photo51

    Photo51 Established commenter

    I didn't think I would have anything to be angry about today. Thank you for filling that empty space in my day.
     
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  4. Orkrider2

    Orkrider2 Star commenter

    Abortion laws in South and Central America are particularly brutal, with many women being imprisoned after miscarriages. Or not receiving the medical care they need because it is feared that it may impact on the foetus.
    It's horrific.
     
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  5. Aquamarina1234

    Aquamarina1234 Star commenter

    Savages. I'm not supposed to look down with disgust and contempt upon nations but this kind of thing - and it is by no means an isolated incident - make me long for the ability to march in and impose some decency. Anyone who suggests the UK is in no position to grab the moral high ground is welcome to go and live in El Salvador, Saudi or Afghanistan.
     
  6. catmother

    catmother Star commenter

    i know. As a woman,I so often consider how lucky I have been to grow up in Europe (France first,then UK).
     
  7. Photo51

    Photo51 Established commenter

    It's not luck. Give the credit to your parents for their choice.
     
  8. catmother

    catmother Star commenter

    Their choice? Not sure what you mean.
     
  9. hhhh

    hhhh Star commenter

    Women who have miscarriages and stillbirths in this country are not always treated well-and there was a recent case where a woman was accused of killing her child after a stillbirth at 7 months. OK, so it's far rarer-but it happens, and we don't seem to give it much publicity. Men are often treated as if their feelings don't matter and expected to return to work striaght after a mc. Women are left sitting on their dead babies on a hospital corridor for 6 hours. People suffering cot death are imprisoned-what about that lawyer a few years ago? She would have known that she could have had an abortion, so why would she have had children if she didn't want them-yet she was accused of murder when she should have been pitied. So while this story disgusts me, I'm not proud of things in this country either.
     
  10. Aquamarina1234

    Aquamarina1234 Star commenter

    No comparison. One is institutionalised, legalised brutality, the other is a rare systems failure within a democratic welfare state.
     
  11. Photo51

    Photo51 Established commenter

    We are literally the same as El Salvador. What are The Guardian doing about it? ? Deflecting criticism to El Salvador
     
  12. FrankWolley

    FrankWolley Star commenter


    By all means campaign for the changes you think needed here. I think the differences are pretty clear. For example would a programme like this be shown in Central/South America?

    https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-...-mine-stillbirth-dignified-moving-documentary
     
  13. Aquamarina1234

    Aquamarina1234 Star commenter

    Dictionary.com is your friend.
     
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  14. Photo51

    Photo51 Established commenter

    Dictionaries are an oppressive tool of the elite. The people should decide what words mean.
     
  15. FrankWolley

    FrankWolley Star commenter


    They do...and then lexicographers put them in dictionaries!;)
     
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  16. knitone

    knitone Lead commenter

    I, one of the people, have decided that in certain contexts the following meanings apply:

    Informed - complete
    Poster - pillock

    You, Sir, are an informed poster.
     
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  17. Photo51

    Photo51 Established commenter

    Typical gender assumption that complements hate speech.
     
  18. knitone

    knitone Lead commenter

    O.K

    You, Sir/Madam/Miss/Ms, are an informed poster.
     
  19. knitone

    knitone Lead commenter

  20. InkyP

    InkyP Star commenter

    :rolleyes:
     

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