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Will Ofsted's call to action really help the teacher shortage crisis?

Discussion in 'Education news' started by TES_Rosaline, Dec 1, 2015.

  1. TES_Rosaline

    TES_Rosaline Administrator Staff Member

  2. NQT1986

    NQT1986 Occasional commenter

    Does Michael Wilshaw (of "If anyone says to you that 'staff morale is at an all-time low' you know you are doing something right." fame) realise that Ofsted is the reason for many of these teachers leaving

    Sir Michael Wilshaw will warn that continued staff shortages in key subjects are being made worse by the number of newly-qualified teachers leaving to teach abroad or in the independent sector, as he introduces his fourth Ofsted annual report.


    What about teachers that are just 'leaving teaching'?!

    They don't need to 'pay maths teachers more' or introduce 'bursaries for graduates' or have 'troops to teaching', 'mums' armies', 'private school teachers come to rescue state hovels', 'elite teaching forces' or 'golden handcuffs' (how would THAT one work in practice!? 'You must stay teaching bottom set Year 9 for 3 years whether you have a nervous breakdown or not, or else you lose your house?!') We need...

    To reform (or scrap) Ofsted.
    To cull the swelling numbers of SMT and put most of them back in the classroom (using the money saved to buy pencils and books).
    To reform (or scrap) PMR
    To revert to the old marking scheme of (tick=right and x=wrong) and just talk to any children who found it hard about why they find it hard.
    Stop changing the curriculum and exams requirements based on the whim of some MP who's never taught.

    and suddenly, they might find tens of thousands of teachers change their minds and pop back into the job. We don't even particularly want a pay rise-just a smaller workload!
     
  3. Vince_Ulam

    Vince_Ulam Star commenter

    No teacher is beholden to state sector schools. ITT is an industry and people now pay that they may be called a teacher. They pay first with their money and then, for the rest of their careers, they pay with their time, with their dignity and with their peace of mind.
     
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  4. lanokia

    lanokia Star commenter

    It isn't about the money!

    It's the conditions... throwing more money at the problem is a waste of money! God this is so frustrating...
     
  5. Morninglover

    Morninglover Star commenter


    Generally yes, it is about conditions...But if you pay enough (e.g. a lot more) you will get people who think the conditions are worth it.
     
  6. RedQuilt

    RedQuilt Star commenter

    Lanokia's right.

    Why won't the right people listen to what's so important?
     
    lanokia and NQT1986 like this.
  7. snowyhead

    snowyhead Lead commenter

    You know it, I know it, 'they' (ie them what makes the rules) know it. Doing something about it would be an admittance by 'them' that teachers actually can teach effectively without all the unnecessary monitoring bovine excrement that has been invented over the past ten years.
     
  8. Mangleworzle

    Mangleworzle Star commenter

    He can't say that though, as long as he stands there pointing outwards he's hoping that no-one will look at him.
     
  9. snowyhead

    snowyhead Lead commenter

    I wonder if Wilshaw plans to write a 'kiss and tell' once he retires?
     
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  10. irs1054

    irs1054 Star commenter

    Wilshaw seems to accept the problem, he also admits that pressure from OFSTED (and the Government) is a contributor. Yet he thinks that the solution is to up the amount of pressure.

    Where do you begin to disentangle that amount of dissonance?
     
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  11. monicabilongame

    monicabilongame Star commenter

    The only thing this government understands is money - money is all. If people are leaving teaching it must be about the money, right? Because money is what rules their world and what gives them authority and power and presence and position and, and, and..... So clearly everyone else must be as money-oriented as they are. Disabled people who can't work? Make them work their way out of poverty. Mentally ill people who can't work? Make them man up and work. People who only have the choice of zero-hours contracts at minimum pay and no job security and who need food banks? They're not working hard enough, the skivers.
     
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  12. JessicaRabbit1

    JessicaRabbit1 Senior commenter

    If we get rid of all the people in education who are paid to tell us poor stupid teachers how wrong we are getting it, then what will they do? Our school pays a maths 'consultant' to drop by every now and then and give us lots of handy hints on how we can improve our practice, tell us what we should be doing etc. Not once has she ever actually taught a class of children, but what would this 'expert' be doing with her time if her 'services' were no longer required? There is a huge industry of people like her whose job is to make us all better teachers - what will happen to them? They'll have to pack up their clipboards and retire.

    Much easier to keep telling us we're all ****, and justify these peoples' wages.
     
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  13. drek

    drek Star commenter

    Yes ofsted is right it is about money I'm sorry to say.

    It does not go into the pocket of your average teacher.

    It goes into the pockets of those who say the right things at the right time in the right place to the right people.

    I am but a humble teacher. I always say the wrong thing and do the wrong thing and .....

    I am but a Slave to every outstanding person in education or those who think they are anyway.

    And there are so so many..... Sigh! They all want more money than a teacher for the hours of unwanted wisdom and feedback they impart unto us lesser beings.

    Yet they would not care to teach our groups, particularly the ones they hastily put together for us to teach a week before learning walks are due, and then take the cream of the crop and 'bond' with them over an X factor type judgment over teaching performance.

    By cream of the crop I'm talking those students who never prepare for their lessons, never do any homework and spend most of their day socialising on their phones.
     
  14. drek

    drek Star commenter

    These students will make brilliant future educaion leaders, I always hear uninspiring tales from current leaders about how lazy and rude they were as students, 'it was the teacher's fault' whine....but look where they are now..... I am looking and it ain't a site I envy, it's that unpleasant revered one!
    People like you have made teaching unbearable..... So nothing's changed since the days you were a 'naughty' student then huh?
    Except now you get paid oodles for the same behaviour and still get to blame the teachers for the person you are!
     
  15. NQT1986

    NQT1986 Occasional commenter

    I often wonder how these LEA consultants get their job? Were they outstanding teachers?! What makes them so wonderful that they get paid more than I do, to tell me what to do? We have one that comes round and looks at our displays and says things like, 'your backing paper is not brightly coloured enough', 'display boards are NOT for showcasing the children's work!' and other such gems. Talk about money for old rope!? How did she get that gig??
     
  16. lanokia

    lanokia Star commenter

    Yesterday, driving back from interview, I listened to a Radio4 interview with a Care in the Community nurse. She'd received an award and was highly praised by her patients and employers. They asked her if she wanted to be paid more, she said [paraphrasing] 'Well yeah sure but it won't make me any better at my job'

    She would still 'care' the same amount for her patients, still do as good a job as she was. Anyone imagining that throwing money at teachers solves the problems of education is ignorant of the problems.
     
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  17. Kamit

    Kamit New commenter

    My mum was an advisory teacher in the final years of her career. So 30 odd years in the classroom then 5 years passing on tips to fellow teachers.

    What she could never understand was that some of her colleagues had spent as little as 1 year in the classroom. What possible experience and expertise could they be passing on?
     
  18. NQT1986

    NQT1986 Occasional commenter

    Exactly-I would have respect for and gladlly take advice from someone who'd done the job effectively for years. Sadly, in the future, I can't see anyone having been a classroom teacher for 30 years!
     
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  19. Mangleworzle

    Mangleworzle Star commenter

    They stopped advising on the basis of experience a long time ago and started advising on the basis of political requirements instead, a lack of experience is an asset in such circumstances. They've been told what to advise, who are they to know any better?
     
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