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Why does the government and TDA lie about golden hellos?

Discussion in 'Modern foreign languages' started by rubyk, Jul 31, 2007.

  1. I did a Primary PGCE with Spanish course, which i loved and got the first job i applied for...in a private school but teaching lots of Spanish. My boyfriend also a MFL primary teacher, was not so lucky and had to do supply this year, but none the less teaching spanish and french. We were promised at uni that we would get the golden hello and of course it turns out due to various loopholes that we won't. Shocking..yes and more so that friends who are in full time jobs in state schools have also been told they wont get it. More annoying than this is that look at any uni website offering Primary PGCE course and they too brag about golden hellos....hmmm. If anyone from Watchdog or the like is reading this I feel it would be a good one to investigate and why not look at "interest free student loans"! humph!
     
  2. I did a Primary PGCE with Spanish course, which i loved and got the first job i applied for...in a private school but teaching lots of Spanish. My boyfriend also a MFL primary teacher, was not so lucky and had to do supply this year, but none the less teaching spanish and french. We were promised at uni that we would get the golden hello and of course it turns out due to various loopholes that we won't. Shocking..yes and more so that friends who are in full time jobs in state schools have also been told they wont get it. More annoying than this is that look at any uni website offering Primary PGCE course and they too brag about golden hellos....hmmm. If anyone from Watchdog or the like is reading this I feel it would be a good one to investigate and why not look at "interest free student loans"! humph!
     
  3. salsera

    salsera New commenter

    Do the golden hellos apply if you go into the state sector only?
     
  4. salsera

    salsera New commenter

    Taken from TES FAQ


    Does my course make me eligible for the Golden Hello?

    Golden Hellos are only awarded to qualified teachers who trained on an eligible route. Employment-based routes, such as GTP, RTP, OTTP schemes or any other course where the trainee is employed as an unqualified teacher are not eligible.

    To be eligible for the Golden Hello, a teacher must have trained on a PGCE / SCITT course in a shortage subject since September 2000, and must have been awarded a £6,000 bursary during the course.*
    Shortage subjects included in the scheme are:

    * English (including drama)
    * Mathematics
    * Science
    * Design Technology
    * Information Technology
    * Technology
    * Modern Foreign Language

    From September 2006, Music & RE courses also become eligible.

    *There are some other possibility for eligibility for people who trained before September 2000 - see here.

    Am I personally eligible for the Golden Hello?

    To be eligible for a Golden Hello, a teacher must have trained on an eligible course (see above). In addition, the teacher must have successfully completed the full induction period or 3 terms or its equivalent.

    The Golden Hello must be claimed within 12 months of completing induction (except in special circumstances, see note below). To be able to claim the payment, a teacher must be employed in a post which meets the following criteria:

    * The contract must be for a minimum of one school term.
    * The post must be in a maintained school, a non-maintained special school or an Academy, in England.
    * The post must be mainly teaching the specialist subject in which the teacher trained, and will therefore normally be at a Secondary or Special school. (i.e. the teacher must be teaching the specialism to class other than their own)

    The 12 months limit may be extended in special circumstances, such as pregnancy, or caring responsibilities. Advice should be sought from the Local Authority.


    How much is the Golden Hello worth?

    There is a range of 3 payment bands for Golden Hello payments depending on year in which the training course was begun, and its specialism. These are outlined in the table, below. The three payment bands are:

    * L - Lower band - £2500
    * S - Standard - £4000
    * H - Higher band - £5000

    When and How do I apply for the Golden Hello?

    Teachers who have trained on an eligible course, have completed induction, and are employed in an eligible post, should apply for the Golden Hello within 12 months of completing induction.

    To apply for the Golden Hello payment, a teacher should complete the form which was provided by their training provider. If the form has been lost, then a replacement should be sought from the training provider. Relevant parts of the form need to be completed by the provider, the teacher, and the Head or Deputy of the school which employs the teacher. The form should then be forwarded to the relevant pay authority, e.g. the Local Authority or the payroll officer in foundation schools or academies.

    How will I get the money?

    Once the application has been forwarded to the relevant authority, the full payment of either £2500, £4000 or £5000 should be paid in one instalment through the normal payroll.

    Golden Hellos are taxable, and National Insurance must also be paid. Consequently, the amount received is likely to be around 2/3 of the total amount after deductions. Pension contributions are not taken from the sum.



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  5. Yes, the golden hellos only apply if you go into the state sector. You have to be teaching your own class and another in the subject you trained in. I meet all of the criteria except that one.
     
  6. Incommunicado

    Incommunicado Occasional commenter


    A word of advice for anyone who thinks that they have been deprived of a golden hello to which they are entitled:

    Get a confirmation from your Union's legal department that you have satisfied the criteria;

    Inform your LEA that you are entitled to this payment, and ask for confirmation that it will be forthcoming, by a stated deadline;

    If this deadline passes without receipt of the golden hello due.... APPOINT A DEBT COLLECTOR.

    You will probably find that the possibility of bailiffs arriving at County Hall (with the Press tipped off to record the scene) will have the desired effect.

    If anyone feels that this course of action is unreasonable, please say so... I think it is perfectly in order.


     
  7. Geekie

    Geekie New commenter

    Call me dense rubyk, but it seems that you don't meet the criteria rather than the TDA has lied ??
     
  8. I had always understood that these golden hellos etc were exclusively available to State School teachers - by taking a job in an Independent School you cut yourself off from the possibility of getting one.
     
  9. salsera

    salsera New commenter

    Having just read the documentation it does say that for MFL you have to be "secondary" (KS3 and KS4) trained and have 50%+ of the subject you specialised in on your timetable. Also has to be state school of sorts. Looking at that you do not qualify at all. sorry
     
  10. salsera

    salsera New commenter

  11. mabdul

    mabdul New commenter

    Do not enter into teaching if you are thinking of getting a big Golden hello to help you in life, there is nothing golden about it!!!

    I am a Science Teacher and I have been taxed £2700 of my total salary this month, knowing that I will never see any of it is hard to swallow. I am grateful to have a bit extra but it is hard to accept that the payment is so less.

    It is a big scam and we need to get the government to stop dangling this rotten reducing carrot in front of us.
     

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