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why do we need bleached toilet paper?

Discussion in 'Personal' started by nizebaby, Dec 12, 2019.

  1. nizebaby

    nizebaby Star commenter

    I've never understood why we can't simply ban these products.
     
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  2. sbkrobson

    sbkrobson Star commenter

    So many companies use bleached components in their toilet paper, as it gives enhanced softening properties allegedly. This includes the supposedly more ethical recycled toilet roll, which is primarily sourced from office waste, which in turn invariably incorporates bleached paper. Companies shape this demand, and it's hard to avoid, although the experiential reality is that nothing will ever scratch again like Izal. That's the bottom line.

    I read somewhere recently (sorry cannot find the reference) that Aldi toilet paper is one of the "best" in terms of avoiding bleach. But even so, it still contains bleach, as do most brands'.
    It's a race to the bottom.
     
  3. LondonCanary

    LondonCanary Star commenter

    Grey toilet paper is generally a poor decor match.
     
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  4. lizziescat

    lizziescat Star commenter

    Would match my (black/grey/white) bathroom perfectly;)
     
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  5. needabreak

    needabreak Star commenter

    We could say the same about clothing materials... In fact some people only wear natural unbleached organic natural products but that comes with a price tag. I favour natural material though can't always get it or afford it, wool, silk, linen, cotton biodegrade better than rayon, nylon and polyester which hangs around on landfill for decades.
     
  6. LondonCanary

    LondonCanary Star commenter

    Would or does?
     
  7. Bedlam3

    Bedlam3 Star commenter

    Indeed these products should be banned but it is unlikely to happen. It's the same with all the strong dyes which go into clothing. There are somethings which we don't need and would be better off without.
     
  8. lizziescat

    lizziescat Star commenter

    Would if I were to buy it.
     
  9. sbkrobson

    sbkrobson Star commenter

    For once I shall quit the quips.
    Nobody yet alludes to the actual issues with bleaching toilet paper which are two fold-

    environmental-toxins released into natural water sources at or close to point of manufacture
    health-bleached paper leaches potential skin irritants although minuscule

    Against

    the advantages-
    cosmetic-looks "nice"
    sensory-feels softer

    So bleaching wins on the personal front but loses on the environmental front, because it does not matter a tinkers cuss if it clashes visually with your bathroom. You can put it in a cupboard or a dispenser which conceals it.

    in terms of comfort, I've already said well-it beats the Izal era even if you buy unbleached. So buy unbleached. And if you are really bothered about relative abrasion "down there" use water-even better. And if you're bothered about your water bill, collect it in a butt...see what I did there.

    Our environment, our planet. If you are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem. I wont budge on that, because it matters.
     
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  10. Doitforfree

    Doitforfree Star commenter

    Our office has unbleached paper. It seems to function just as well add the white kind. I agree. It's all that should be allowed but I've not seen any for sale in shops.
     
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  11. Rott Weiler

    Rott Weiler Star commenter Forum guide

    :D:D:D
     
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  12. mothorchid

    mothorchid Star commenter

    I have a feeling that some countries have unbleached loo roll asa a matter of routine, and simply never went down the bleached paper route. Switzerland comes to mind, although everything else there is so clean that you don't need to have added bleach, perhaps?
     
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  13. Mangleworzle

    Mangleworzle Star commenter

    Small point, but rayon biodegrades very quickly, more so than cotton in many cases. It is much more heavily processed however.
     
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  14. florian gassmann

    florian gassmann Star commenter

    Ecoleaf, Essential, Emerald, Who Gives A Cr.ap, Seventh Generation and The Cheeky Panda are all unbleached or use air bleaching (i.e. the paper is bleached by sunlight, as linen used to be). However, I think you would need to either buy online or go to a specialist ethical superstore.

    At least we no longer have to search for bog paper to match our 1970s' bathroom suites in avocado, peach, harvest yellow, pink or sepia. :(
     
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  15. sbkrobson

    sbkrobson Star commenter

    Correct.
    In terms of the consumer market, it is a perfect example of steering demand to fit with the greater good (ecological) rather than creating it and then claiming you are responding to it, when actually you are purely profit driven, The softer and whiter, the more expensive and let's not mention the hazardous by-products-it's true on the shop shelves that I've seen. And over time, consumers have been blinded to the fact that a momentary cossetting of the buttocks is less relevant than targetted consideration of the world's interlinking waterways and their ecologies. It might be your river, but it's my peachy arrus.

    In your example it's not at all to do with being clean as a nation, it's to do with a scientifically founded environmental conscience which is embraced at legislative level and therefore presides over the profit motive. It might be my peachy arrus, but that river is there for centuries.
    This is exactly what the opening post is calling for.
    Which is why I liked it.
     
    Last edited: Dec 12, 2019
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  16. Bedlam3

    Bedlam3 Star commenter

    Florian gasman reminded me I bought cheeky panda loo roll from morrisons. I believe it was bamboo. But it still came wrapped in plastic and I think it was bleached as it looked very white. Like Doitforfree says we need an alternative range in the supermarkets so we have the choice to buy it. I'm going to the supermarket tomorrow and will study the range off loo rolls more closely.
     
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  17. Mangleworzle

    Mangleworzle Star commenter

    What we need is Japanese style bum-squirty toilets. I've considered getting one since we came back from there last year. They do a much better job and a tiny amount of paper is needed to dry off. They might stop people taking so many showers too with the associated energy and water consumption.
     
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  18. lanokia

    lanokia Star commenter

     
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  19. nizebaby

    nizebaby Star commenter

    If you have a hipster-style avocado bathroom suite, you'd better make sure that the colour of your bog roll harmonises in an instagrammable way.

    edited to spare my blushes
     
    Last edited: Dec 12, 2019
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  20. lanokia

    lanokia Star commenter

    Instagrammatical?

    Either way I like it
     
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