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Who the hell needs to leaarn languages

Discussion in 'Modern foreign languages' started by OTTER, Feb 12, 2011.

  1. yasf

    yasf Occasional commenter

    who the hell needs to learn ICT as any fool with half a brain can pick up what they need to know as they go along.
  2. yasf

    yasf Occasional commenter

    ps - not actually my opinion
  3. As I tell my kids when they hand in drivel and then say "It must be right I had it from Google translate" ... when did you last have a conversation with a computer?
  4. Sol22

    Sol22 New commenter

    that's a good one!
    Mine try to translate their work too and I always find the most amusing translations!
    I must use your sentence next.
  5. I'm so old ICT wasn't even invented when I was in school.
    Though I'm at least as competent on the computer as my (teenage) children.......and the only training I've ever had was a couple of twilight sessions in a previous school (I learned to use powerpoint).
    But I've taught and tutored an impressive number of adults who find they want / need to know French after all..
  6. jubilee

    jubilee Star commenter

    Who needs to learn addition, subtraction, multiplication, division or percentages when a calculator will do it for you?
    Who needs to learn to peel, slice and dice when you can buy all your snacks and meals ready prepared? That's actually the attitude of the new Head of a special school who is trying to control the Food Tech budget by objecting to certain recipes being introduced on the grounds that you can get soup in can, so why bother with the palava of making it from scratch!
  7. Sol22

    Sol22 New commenter

    I have really enjoyed reading this link! You are all so right!
    1. Calculators do it for you!! of course
    2. I have never had an ICT or Food tecn lesson- that is so true! and i do nto need them! I can cook very well and can't I use the computer? I live with it!lol day and night.

    What a silly approach to MFL. I have been recently reading the Goverment Review in MFL. We need languages more than ever!!! and isn't it nice for children to have the chance? I wished I had more options when I was in school!
  8. Where can I find this Government Review in MFL?

  9. Incommunicado

    Incommunicado Occasional commenter

    ' Who the hell needs to learn languages when you have the new google translate app on the iphone?'

    Please tell your pupils that an iPhone is **** all use when you are chatting naturally with a French-speaker. Languages do exist in a real world where people talk to each other face-to-face, argue, socialise and debate.
    (I assume that you mean French).

  10. Have you tried using any of these tools to translate a few words from English to MFL, then the translation back to English? Do it and then do the worst examples again with the children. Tell them to imagine the results with a longer and bit more complicated text. I'm a Fellow of the Chartered Inst of Linguists, which is big in translating, so I know there are good professional systems, but they cost, and still need to be finally revised by a human linguist.
    If you're not a linguist, you probably haven't stopped to consider why machine translation is so difficult, but some of these mistranslations may reveal that the machine must make assumptions that our brains can filter out, and this may be a revealing insight for pupils into their language faculty.
  11. I can't believe someone in education would have such an ignorant view.

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