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Who else is Peed off with not getting any supply because schools have employed 50% more cover supervisors?

Discussion in 'Supply teaching' started by WalkingOnSunshine, Oct 7, 2009.

  1. If you want to make it 'official', we have to know numbers. We need to organise publicity. We need a person to be the spokesperson/publicity person.
    Somebody will need to draft some sort of 'terms of association' or whatever the level of formality demands.
    The best first start would be to arrange to meet with some MPs who will give a sympathetic ear to the cause. This should be fairly straightfoward given the political situation at present.
    It's too easy to have a whinge on a website, but to do something does require some organisation and, just as important, some guarantee of commitment. There's nothing worse han being only one of three people to turn up and that kills any campaign stone dead.
  2. jubilee

    jubilee Star commenter

    Actually, everyone has all the standards to meet in term 3 of Induction.

    You can be 'not yet meeting the Standards' in terms 1 &2 and then meet them in term 3 and Pass Induction.

    Equally, someone who is on target to meeting the standards in terms 1 &2 can fail in term 3.

    The final term is the ONLY Induction term that counts. Find a school that suits you and supports you and you can turn things around.
    Take careful note of the comments they make about your progress. Know exactly when Induction is due to end in a p/t position. If it's not working out after they put in necessary support (or if they don't provide the support that they should), negotiate an early release so that an Induction verdict cannot be made. You are then free to start Term 3 ALL OVER AGAIN SOMEWHERE ELSE.
  3. Pugwash

    Pugwash New commenter

    Hey jubillee thanks for that! I've quoted a section of your reply because I've done just that three times now! This would be my fourth attempt!! Since there isn't now a deadline I may well do it one day and I hope I do 'cos I know I can make a good teacher in the right setting.
  4. This all sounds like a plan. Meeting, protest...all good.....just finished being a student so I could do with keeping my protesting skills honed haha
    I may have only qualified in June 2009 but I'm already sick to death of rejection of applications, shortage of supply work in my area, and quite frankly the use and abuse of people (CS) without qualifications to teach the nation's children - yes these points are frankly a little selfish, but surely it is better for the children to be taught by someone who ACTUALLY knows what the **** they are doing in a classroom? On my teaching practices I met some lovely CSs, but they were no teachers! Also CSs shouldn't be being asked to do half of the stuff that they are asked to do (or that is certainly my opinion having seen what they were used for at the school I did my Main TP at. Supply may be more expensive, but it's more expensive for a reason. WE ARE TRAINED TO DO THE JOB. And at the end of the day, that is what matters.
    And now as I once again have no work, I'm going to curl up in the corner and have a cry. [​IMG]
  5. ok so ive had a few days supply but i totally agree it is a farce maybe its because im new to teaching still looking to receive my first post as an nqt and start my induction but the pupils it surely isnt any good for them having non qualified staff in to teach them......argh it makes me mad sometimes........sorry just had to let off some steam
  6. OK my friend firstly the Bad News. Its going to get worse, Went to a union meeting recently & they said that there's going to be very little money in education in 2010/11 whoever wins the election. So come to terms with it & make plans.Find activities to kill time during off days -Join a gym or develop a superb swing at the local golf driving range.I've been in supply since 2001 & have never been unable to secure work the week before half term. I've been lucky as I got 4 weeks covering a teacher with swine flu. but didnt work last thurs or today. & got nothing for tomorrow so far. If you've got a reliable car let the agencies know you will travel On mon I left home @ 6'30.
    E-mail them once a week and phone in every morning at7-7'30.Best telephone manners. Be as flexible as you can.letting them all know when you get a booking. My specialism is MFL but I've got A level maths so when schools get to know you you can work in a few areas.They are required to use a specialist teacher after 3 days absence under rarely cover regs. some schools may use cs's for a week .offer yourself for playground duty, and supervise children off site etc,etc at the end of the day.
    Mass mail all schools in your area with your CV -I'm FE trained and am going to do this with colleges if things don't pick up after half term. It may mean hours here there and everywhere at all times of the day and evening but it beats the dole, and establishes valuable contacts. And yes it needs to be said research other possibilities outside of teaching -driving instructor? IT? HGV? Hope all this helps. MarcelloX

  7. emmadrg

    emmadrg New commenter

    I'm just wondering, and maybe being a bit naive, but why have schools had their funding cut by so much? I can understand that from next year (and what with all the stuff in the press) there may need to be some funding cuts, but why, all of a sudden, do schools find themselves with no money?
    A school I worked at recently had a Head who was notorious for being thrifty and they had a massive budget surplus (we're talking hundreds of thousands of pounds here). I know that schools shouldn't just go completely mental and blow every single penny, but do schools work like other council departments - if they don't spend all of their budget then do they get a reduced budget for next year.
    PS - if schools are having such funding crises then why are there so many NQTs without jobs? They are the cheapest to hire when vacancies arise and I know of one school near me that actively recruits 95% of their new staff as NQTs, and only offers them a one year contract.
  8. A lot of schools are merging or being reformed, new buildings,new subjects the development of academies sponsored by local enterprise. Those are all the logical reasons but, sure, there's loads of illogic that shall we say has not been forseen. If the day2day supply dries up then the specialist supply staff required after 3 days are going to struggle. I myself rely on day2day bookings between long termers, The raising of the school leaving age is going to add to rhe fiasco as there will be an extra need for specialist staff to teach. If new NQTs can't find the work now they will look for work outside the profession......but basically its all down to bums-on-seats. Thats how the accountants look at things & no doubt the cause of all the reorganisation(& chaos)
  9. Lara mfl 05

    Lara mfl 05 Star commenter

    I heard from a union rep that there would be no more money forthcoming after 2010, but that was in the context of funding for MFL and the Primary Modern Language initiative.
  10. singinintherain

    singinintherain New commenter

    I'm a cover supervisor and I've only had 2 days of work since the beginning of September. I've had 'It's really quiet at the moment' too. Although, I agree that people who actually have a teaching qualification should be picked first. It is quite useful to me as I'm doing my GTP next year and they say if you can handle supply you can handle your GTP year fine.
  11. emmadrg

    emmadrg New commenter

    Thing is, I'm a specialist in a subject that the government keeps telling us is receiving more funding and is oh so important for the future of our great nation (hint: it appears on TV adverts about maths and rollercoasters and the like), and apparently the results will count in schools' 5 grade A to C percentages.
    Friends of mine keeps asking where all the money is going in education, and I don't have an answer for them. I can appreciate that there are falling class numbers in some areas (near where I live for sure) and that can affect funding to a small extent. But the way people are talking about budget cuts it sounds like schools are having hundreds of thousands less each year.
    Someone I know down the street is thinking of applying to do a PGCE - I've told them not to bother, after explaining the situation at the minute, and directed her to these forums. She's putting it off for a few years.
    Oh, and to add insult to injury, I phoned my agency yesterday to tell them that I won't be available until after Easter next year, and asked why it had been so slow. They told me that they were unable to offer me work as I hadn't completed the paperwork to have my CRB for another organisation checked by them. If only I had received such paperwork eight weeks ago. I've already made up my mind not to work for them again.
  12. Lara mfl 05

    Lara mfl 05 Star commenter

    Hopefully that means you have some long-term, albeit temporary, work. Last longterm I had was 4 years ago now.
  13. emmadrg

    emmadrg New commenter

    Yes, I have a maternity cover. And I will get my golden hello, which means we can start trying for a baby next year without having massive money worries. Ideally I'd like permanent work, and I'll be applying for anything that comes up, but I'm resigned to the fact that I am of that age where employers might think I'm not going to be in it for the long haul (ie having babies). Which is complete and utter tosh. Yes, I do want babies, but I don't want to give up a career in teaching for it!
  14. emmadrg

    emmadrg New commenter

    PS - I know that employers aren't supposed to discriminate on the basis of your sex, but I know it happens. [​IMG]
  15. becky70

    becky70 Occasional commenter

    So many women return to work these days though - you do wish they'd realise this! I've no intention of giving up work if I have children although I expect sorting out childcare etc to be hell on supply.
  16. The really worrying and scary think for me is that for every person that has posted on here, there is at least 5 others that are in the same situation that have not posted their toils over the last few months/years! What a huge waste. Why do the government keep on training more and more teachers when there are not enough posts to go around? 15 years down the line we will be ok due to everyone having babies in light of recession! I'l be 45 then though...
  17. jubilee

    jubilee Star commenter

    Certain Secondary schools have budget difficulties if they haven't been abe to fill their places this school year and last.
    Sept 2008 was the start of the falling pupil rolls in Year 7; primary have been suffering from the lower birthrate for a few years already. Secondary are now in the second successive year of competing with other schools for pupils.
    Some schools are oversubscribed and have been made to take extra pupils whose parents appealed the rejection decision. Those schools will have the money to keep staff or recruit more staff.
    Other schools are seriously short of pupils and lose anwhere between £3,700 and £6k or more per empty place.
    The iniquity of the funding system also affects a school's ability to fund the education provision to the standard possible elsewhere. Some schools in the UK are getting almost double the per capita funding of other schools.
    I was at a school today that is facing a budget deficit for the second year running and they have told staff that redundancies WILL be made if no-one expresses a wish to reduce their hours or leave voluntarily.
  18. I'm so so so glad it's not just me. Thankfully I have a part-time job elsewhere, but I was always able to find supply on the 2 days I'm available. Thought it was just teachers settling classes that was keeping the work at bay, but apparently not.
    Will have to buck my ideas up though, my OH can't cope with me working part-time, and financially I am not used to it!

  19. podilato

    podilato New commenter

    Don't believe the propaganda about budget cuts. Any nation that can afford to spend billions on the Olympics, fight 2 wars simultaneously, bail out privately owned banks to the tunes of billions can definitely afford school budgets. The recession has provided a great excuse to do what they have been wanting to do for a long time. The unions are either incredibly stupid and naive or have made some backroom deal with the major parties not to cause a fuss.
    The plan was to get rid of the 'closed shop' of qualified staff and then once unqulified staff are established in schools then next on the chopping block is permanent staff. If permanent staff think their jobs are safe then they are mistaken. They will be the first to complain about how or who let this happen.
    To say that next year this or that will happen is incredibly defeatist. It will only happen if we let it.

  20. stupot101

    stupot101 Established commenter

    How do they plan to get rid of permenent staff though.. won't this be rather difficult?


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