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Where is an Architectural Graduate best placed in higher education - Art & Design or Design & Technology?

Discussion in 'Design and technology' started by arty_arch, Jun 11, 2012.

  1. Hi,

    I have both a BTEC National Diploma in Fine Art and a BA Hons in Architecture with RIBA Part 1 qualification.

    As someone thinking about training as a teacher (PGCE or GTTP) I am unsure where my skills are best placed. Would I be best placed as an Art & Design Teacher or as a Design Technology Teacher? Therefore I am keen to hear from anyone who works within an Art Department or a Design Technology Department at a secondary school or FE college.

    I left school back in 1998 and at that time Design Technology was namely focused on wood and metal work, but through some research I have seen that this subject has changed quite radically in some schools and now incorporate Graphic Design, 3D & Product Design, Textiles and Food Technology. Though at some schools I can see that architecture is quite heavily focused on as a subject within the Art & Design curriculum.

    Last summer I undertook 6 weeks teaching experience within a great art department at a high achieving coeducational school. The students were fantastic and though most of them were interested in Fine Art there were a few who were applying to study architecture. I felt I was able to engage with them all whether it was in painting, printmaking, sculpture, drawing, photography or architecture. I just want to be sure that I am not missing something having not experienced teaching within a Design & Technology Department.

    If you can offer any helpful advise or experience I look forward to hearing from you.
  2. I know a few schools that go down the modelling route when completing the final project in Year 13. To be honest, I don't feel I have the students that are capable of successfully meeting all the criteria set out in a design brief such as this. It is essential that those that do have close links with an architect who is able to guide them through the process.
    What I would recommend though is that you maybe download a copy of the A Level specification for Product Design and see for yourself what exactly is taught. You might be quite suprised at what is/isnt included.
    I have taught A Level Product Design using the WJEC exam board and I have found them extremely helpful if I've ever had a problem. There's no harm picking up the phone and asking a few questions. That's what they're for at the end of the day.
    This is the link to the A Level Spec that I follow: (DT1/2 is Year 12 and DT3/4 is Year 13)
    Other exam boards include:
    AQA and Edexcel. It might be worth you downloading their specifications too just to familarise yourself with the structure of A Level Product Design across the board.
    Good luck, and drop us a reply if you get stuck or need any more help.
  3. I did a degree in Interior Design and then went on to do PGCE in
    Secondary D&T. I have been teaching for 8 years and have come across lots
    of D&T Staff that teach Art but I haven't seen Art teachers doing D&T. Teacher
    training is an entry into a job but quite often schools will be looking for
    teachers that can teach or are willing to teach more than one subject. Quite
    often school's will have the D&T and Art departments in one Faculty with lots of cross over between the two.
  4. Thank you for your advise gemma - it's great to hear what you have experienced! At present I have some experience in textile design & dye, silversmithry, graphic design and materials (casting, plastics, wood, metal, form making). This experience combined with my BA in Architecture and my BTEC in Art & Design provides me with a number of cross over skills in both Design and Art. I may have managed to get myself 2 days observation within a DT department next week through a teacher friend. This should help me understand the differences between departments, although I am beginning to see that DT and Art & Design can often be taught combined in some schools or completely separately in others!

  5. <font size="2">I am in Yorkshire
    but I am presuming things are the same or similar.</font>

    <font size="2">When I applied to do a PGCE some universities wanted to offer a
    two year course and others offered a one year course, the main difference being
    the two year course allows you to build up your practical skills amongst other
    things. I choose a 1 year course because although I might not have demonstrated
    a great deal of practical skill during my interior design course I had other
    skills that I had build up though courses I had worked on and my A-level work.</font>

    <font size="2">In terms of practical craft skills they will be looking for your
    ability to manufacture to some degree. What area of D&T do you want to specialise
    in? This will determine some of the skills needed.</font>

    <font size="2">You may have some of the skills needed already. As part of your
    interior design course did you do any modeling for example? This would be
    related, I created a number of models using different techniques and also
    combining cad/cam which I was able to show at interview.</font>

    <font size="2">If you want you can email me directly if I can be of any more help
    - </font>g.postings@challenge.ngfl.ac.uk


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