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When we hear of someone's unsuccessful job interview, driving test failure...

Discussion in 'Personal' started by needabreak, Sep 21, 2016.

  1. needabreak

    needabreak Star commenter

    Come to think of it, how intelligent is someone who is provided with information but is so distracted by the environment that they cannot achieve their best? When they hit the real world of distraction how will they cope? Life and work does not just exist in neat, tidy little cotton wool filled classrooms as we know; we are more than ever bombarded with potential distractions - has anyone considered that comprehensives develop resilience and distraction avoidance to many of those who attend?

    Perhaps potential selective school attendees are the ones who need to buck up, toughen up, get with the programme and knuckle down in a comp.
     
  2. kareneliot

    kareneliot Occasional commenter

    No. There is no reason to think that accurate or only applicable to comps. Can you give an example that supports your idea?
     
  3. needabreak

    needabreak Star commenter

    I don't need to as supporters of selective schools have said it enables the more able to avoid distractions, yet there are many students who do well in the comprehensive system and increasingly get into ancient, red brick and Russell group uni's.
     
  4. kareneliot

    kareneliot Occasional commenter

    What do you mean by distractions thast are unique to comps and their avoidance is part of the experience?
    Thats is to be welcomed. They might have done even better elsewhere.
     
  5. needabreak

    needabreak Star commenter

    As for your first question, I cannot quite understand what you are trying to ask.

    It is indeed to be welcomed when the comprehensive system facilitates access to some of the most sought after universities in the country and in at least one instance I know of the best overseas uni's. In what way do you think they could have bettered that and where do you think they could have done it?
     
  6. Flere-Imsaho

    Flere-Imsaho Star commenter

    Your child has the same outcome. Other children have more successful outcomes. Research on mixed ability teaching generally shows there is no detrimental effect on the high achievers but the lowest are pulled up.
     
  7. Flere-Imsaho

    Flere-Imsaho Star commenter

    Yes.
     
  8. kareneliot

    kareneliot Occasional commenter

    That would appear to be an argument against streaming on ability. In a selective school you can end up with 4 ability groups despite the whole school being the best part of a year ahead with the syllabus.
     
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  9. kareneliot

    kareneliot Occasional commenter

    Yes to all of those things in a comp? Pleased to hear it can be done. Shows the mobile phone naysayers it it possible.
     
  10. Flere-Imsaho

    Flere-Imsaho Star commenter

    A year ahead with the syllabus? Often that just means you've studied a different Shakespeare play or WW2 instead of WW1. If you're really academic, the minute differences between a top and a middle set and an A or a B at school don't matter one jot. You get a degree and a post-grad and laugh that you once considered having read Hamlet rather than Macbeth in 4th year something to be proud of.
     
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  11. kareneliot

    kareneliot Occasional commenter

    Sorry I omitted that it was maths.
    True. Often the degree is irrelevant once you get a professional qualifiaction. That said you may need a "recognized" 2:1 and 320 plus at A level to get the training contract.
     
  12. Calpurnia99

    Calpurnia99 Star commenter

    A facility with traditional academic subjects is a component of what we as a society recognise as intelligence. Many of the skills that accompany it are the short-supply ones that are valued by the professions, and are necessary for passing their exams.

    You all know this. If you pass the 11+ youve demonstrated an early facility with the subjects that lead to money, professional jobs and status. If you don't pass it, there are plenty of other options besides the Bin Of Life.

    IMO the most dangerous thing is the meltdown that the precious precious child of today and his entitled parents are going to suffer when something they want doesn't come their way. If the number of re-marks every exam season is anything to go by, Lawyers-4-U will make a killing.
     

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