Been giggling over MumNet arguing over Level 6. It did raise an interesting question in my mind. Some pupils will attain a Level 5 without a proper understanding of L5 work. Exams will give them a L5 even though they don't know the work (such is life - anyone want to do the same for GCSE grade C?) to a great extent. I wonder if our lists are the same for pupils we'd accept as being firm L5s? Mine would have: (1) Knowing their times tables up to 12 x 12 and the related division facts. (2) Add & subtract with integers or decimals that contain up to 4 or 5 digits. (3) Do long multiplication of a 3 digit by 2 digit number. (4) Do long division by an integer value less than 10 where there is no remainder. (5) Multiply and divide whole numbers and decimals by powers of 10. (6) Reduce fractions to lowest form and also understand that fractions can be seen as a division. (7) Find simple fractional of percentage parts of a whole. (8) Understand the reasonableness of an answer by being able to estimate an answer. (9) Find the area or perimeter of a rectangle and understand that given an area they can find a missing length. (10) Having an aunderstanding of the symmetry of shapes. (11) Be able to draw the reflection of a shape in a mirror line. (12) Be able to decide which metric units to use for mensuration purposes. (13) Know the links between measures, e.g. cm to mm, g to kg, etc. (14) Draw angles accurately and measure accurately. (15) Understand the language of angles. (16) Know the sum of angles at a point, in a triangle and on a straight line and find a missing angle using subtraction methods. (17) Collect data and record in a tally/frequency table or intrepret a frequency table. (18) Calculate mean, median, mode and range for a set of discrete data. (19) Find and justify simple probabilities using fractions or decimals in answers. (20) Draw and interpret simple frequency diagrams such as bar charts, pie charts, pictograms and draw conclusions from them. Anyone want to add any more? Just thinking about it, if a pupil knew all that we'd likely be giving them a level 6 though ineffect they are properly understanding level 5. Something is wrong somewhere!