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What really winds you up the most?

Discussion in 'Personal' started by tartetatin, Apr 16, 2012.

  1. tartetatin

    tartetatin New commenter

    Oooh, I'm raging. Have made the mistake of clicking on a thread on a parenting forum, about how benefits could be cut for the families of persistent truants.
    There's a load of outraged, benefit claiming wimmin on there blaming the schools, the teachers, the government. How can they make their kid go to school if they really don't want to go? [​IMG]
    So in short, people not taking responsibility and the whole nanny state thing wind me up. Add to that antisocial behaviour and litter dropping [​IMG]
    What gets your goat?
     
  2. I
    Probably what you said! I wondered today how long it would be before someone invoked the Human Rights Act for their child being penalised for not attending school. I've travelled in India and Africa where parents and children value education and where, in the Gambia, for example, ths school fee of £50 is a a real struggle to find. And don't get me on litter!!
     
  3. ROSIEGIRL

    ROSIEGIRL Senior commenter

    There's so much at the moment ... I really am a grumpy old woman!
     
  4. tartetatin

    tartetatin New commenter

    I have now decided to walk away from said thread, for the sake of my blood pressure.
    Latest poster has suggested that the schools get fined for the truants, as the kids are obviously bored and the schools aren't engaging them enough.
    She then suggested that the teachers should walk the truants from class to class. [​IMG]
    Eejit.
     
  5. Last year I visited a school in Uganda. There were over 100 pupils in each classroom, they were lucky if they had a stub of a pencil and a notebook. If not they learnt everything by heart. They walked miles barefoot to come to school. Teachers were respected and education valued.
     
  6. jacob

    jacob Lead commenter

    How DO you get kids to go to school? Are you going to sanction parents beating kids and dropping them at the school gates? It is not the fault of the techers, but may not be the fault of the parents either. If a kid does not turn up at school at that age it must be their own fault. What sort of things can be done, because targeting parents is a waste of time.
     
  7. lapinrose

    lapinrose Lead commenter

    This is what *isses me off with this country, teaching ain't easy!! Well it is if you have a class of perfectly behaved pupils who pay attention to every word, do their homework and are never off sick.
    However just look at your average lesson, in 1 hour you have to teach a new idea, collect in homework, make sure absent pupils are accounted for, make sure previous absentees catch up, ensure the behaviour of the class is good and allowing the others to learn. So on and so on.......
    All this whilst ensuring statemented kids are receiving work as laid out in their IEP's, your knowledge is enough to answer difficult questions, you have to treat all the kids the same, and keep smiling whilst juggling a basket of eggs!!
    Teaching is easy, isn't it? [​IMG]
     
  8. Bethannie

    Bethannie New commenter


    Ooooh there is just so much that winds me up these days. I have always thought of myself as fairy easy-going - but as I am getting older I am becoming decidedly more grumpy!
    A great deal of my anger is benefit-related and/or education system related.
    I could rant for my country on the subject of ATOS health. A company given contracts under Labour - even though they are banned in other countries....and the present government have increased their contracts. ATOS Health have the task of deciding which people claiming incapacity/disability benefits are genuine - and yet their 'interviews' are not necessarily carried out by GPs let alone specialists. I have ASD and yet it is quite possible that my assessment will be done by a dentist! About 1/4 of all ATOS Health assessment centres have no disabled access!....any way, I have more gripes, I can;t stay moaning about ATOS all say - easy though that would be!
    I get angry with the government and the media (especially the Daily Mail) for their vilification of the disabled. Most of us are genuine....and if you look at the benefit rates you'd realise we are far from living in luxury!
    I despise the low-life who fraudulently claim disability benefits. Many of the disabled struggle to claim help to which we are entitled. There is only a finite amount of money in the pot....every penny that goes to a cheat is a penny less for a genuine claimant.
    I get mad at the concept of pupils having 'rights'. ..more 'rights' than their teachers. I have taught in Training Providers where every lesson was assessed by learners. Each member of staff was rated according to how interesting/lively/useful/enjoyable their lesson was - but staff were not permitted to pass any judgement on the pupils. Staff had targets to attain - a set number of pupils to pass their qualifications - and failure was never the fault of the pupil.(We would sometimes have a student who had a grade 'G; in Maths GCSE...our task was to get a grade 'C'...in 10 weeks!!! The student would turn up for less than half their sessions and would only want to play on the computer when they did turn up... setting homework was not permitted...parents - or more usually there would just be one parent...would never turn up for meetings and would simply swear at you if you phoned...but if/when the pupil failed to pass their qualification then it was always the fault of the teacher - SMT never taught, were not even qualified to teach, they were business people, but still told us that it was our fault for not being 'better' teachers!)
    I am livid that there is a drought ....and water bills will no doubt be going up...and yet there is an unrepaired leak not too far from my home, that is gushing out more water than I use in a year - and if you report it you are thanked for your concern and told it is a 'priority'.
    I could go on....and on....and on....with all my gripes! But I will let someone else come along and have a cathartic moan!
     
  9. What winds me up are Tory politicians who think the answer to a complex problem is a stupid reactionary policy designed to appeal to Daily Mail readers instead of exploring initiatives which might actually work but involve a bit of investment and intelligent thinking!
     
  10. tartetatin

    tartetatin New commenter

    I agree that it must be blo.ody difficult to get a big, hulking teenager to school if they don't want to go, but some of these mothers had 7 or 8 year olds who were refusing to go to school. How does it get out of control like that so early on?
     
  11. lapinrose

    lapinrose Lead commenter

    Probably the parents were never in control, when the child cried given food or TV, parents allow children to do what they like, no wonder they take control.
     
  12. lardylady

    lardylady Star commenter

    I teach Y1 and in my class, there are three children with an average attendance of 75% or less. The parents just can't be arsed to send them to school, and have admitted as much. So from very early on, those children have received the message that school just isn't important enough to get out of bed for, so when they reach secondary age, and are taking themselves to school, they'll still have that 'school isn't important' mentality and won't think twice about bunking off.
     
  13. InkyP

    InkyP Star commenter

    I have taught children in Reception who very much want to come to school but tell me "Mum wouldn't get out of bed" when they arrive half way through the morning. Another Dad was overheard saying "They don't do much in Reception anyway", his child had 40% attendance at the end of the year and he had the cheek to complain that his son wasn't doing the same work as his friend who had nearly full attendance.
    It may be too late when they are hulking great teenagers but something must be done early on while they are still loving school, it might even prevent them becoming school averse later on when they are already failing.
     
  14. The schools I taught in were generally pretty bad, so any absenteeism on Friday or attacks of Bobphobia in the afternoons were a welcome respite. I once had a last lesson with a special needs year 10 class and no-one turned up. Happy days!
     
  15. ROSIEGIRL

    ROSIEGIRL Senior commenter

  16. magic surf bus

    magic surf bus Star commenter

    B&Q every time

    Whatever you want they haven't got, or it's in the wrong size, material or colour.

    On the rare occasions they have got what you want it's faulty and needs returning.

    They don't display their cheapest goods in the store - you have to discover them via an online stock check after you've driven home.

    Their fitters can't plumb a bathroom sink in properly, or fix it properly after it's leaked.
     
  17. tartetatin

    tartetatin New commenter

    Thanks, rosie. The link isn't working at present so I'll look that up later.
    MSB, I know what you mean ... and it's nigh on impossible to find a member of staff on the shop floor there!
    Thanks for your replies, everyone [​IMG]
     
  18. msmuse

    msmuse New commenter

    This attitude does!
    I have a 14 year old daughter who is struggling with school for many reasons, probably not helped by her raging hormone inbalance (being treated by GP) AND her teachers! She is no angel, but I have met one of the teachers she despises (as does every other child I have spoken to) and she is rude, dismissive and patronising - to me as well as my daughter. I am having a real struggle getting her to school - despite the fact that I AM a responsible, caring parent. I used to teach her when she was primary age with no problems at all, she used to have an excellent attitude to school. It is extremely upsetting when your child doesn't want to attend school/ refuses to go, and threats of benefit cuts/ fines/ legal action etc. really don't help [​IMG]
    Oh and up until recently I was an 'outraged, benefit claiming woman (wimmin??). How patronising, thankyou.
     
  19. What gets my goat?
    Children sent to school without a packed lunch or money to buy a school dinner.
    Children sent to school smelling dirty and unwashed.
    Children sent to school without breakfast.
    Children sent to school in dirty uniform.
    Children sent to school in shoes that are too small.
    Children of 5/6 playing outside in the street after dark.
    I could go on and on but poverty, deprivation, lack of parental responsibility and a government with a total lack of empathy is causing real suffering to children.
    Good thread.
     
  20. tartetatin

    tartetatin New commenter

    I apologise for causing you upset msmuse, but as I pointed out later on in the thread, there's a difference between trying to get a school refusing teenager to school (especially with the problems you've outlined with your own daughter, with which I genuinely empathise. I've posted on here before about my pubescent 10 year old girl) and packing a 7/8 year old off to school.
    One mother had been physically attacked by her 7/8 year old when trying to get him to school, as he didn't like one of the teachers. So it was agreed that he could stay home sometimes to minimise disruption and stress to all.
    I'm sorry but I do read things like this and think the world has gone a bit mad.
    It was the whole blame culture on that particular thread that got my back up, as well as a negation of parental responsibility ... not to mention the usual school bashing.
     

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