Because it is not true to say that teachers in such schools have zero chance of delivering outstanding lessons, and I think that it belittles the great work of thousands of teachers delivering excellent lessons in hard schools day in day out Then we will disagree, that's fine. I will base my statement on the hundreds of inspections that I have carried out and the outstanding lessons that I have had the pleasure of seeing I'm sure you'll get over it. I think if you believe there is zero chance of delivering outstanding lessons, then that does equate to giving up. My post, by the way, had nothing at all to do with OfSTED, which is where this conversations seems to have turned. I don't consider outstanding lessons the same thing as being graded outstanding in an inspection.