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What makes an outstanding/good maths lesson?

Discussion in 'Personal' started by polly2, Feb 2, 2011.

  1. polly2

    polly2 New commenter

    My school has a real push on Maths at the moment and we are constantly being scrutinized and monitored. We don't get any warning, someone just walks in and watches the lesson. Ok, I am not grumbling about this, I mean all teaching should be good but I do feel less confident with Maths than any other subject (probably as a result of constant put downs by my own Maths teachers in the past). So, as I want to feel more on top of things and confident that I am doing a good job, what would you say constitutes as a good/outstanding Maths lesson?
  2. DM

    DM New commenter

  3. magic surf bus

    magic surf bus Star commenter

    One that involves teaching Set 1?
  4. Spot on, as usual MSB.
    (My last job, part-time, involved teaching only classes that no-one else <strike>could cope with</strike> wanted.)
  5. bombaysapphire

    bombaysapphire Star commenter

  6. BelleDuJour

    BelleDuJour Star commenter

    That describes my current job!
    OFSTED....you tell me what to do and you tell me how you feel when one of them throws a chair across the room and another one declares you a 'fucking stupid cow'
    The joys of teaching the yoof of today [​IMG]
  7. acertainsomething

    acertainsomething Occasional commenter

    Simple, outstanding progress, Ofsted now take the view that if progress is not outstanding for a significant majority then the teaching cannot be outstanding. Some might beg to differ.
  8. It might be easier if you told us the sorts of things you do with your class at the moment.
  9. captain oats

    captain oats New commenter

    I had a Maths observation this week, was graded 'good with some outstanding.'

    Things I was told I did well:

    Well planned/resourced

    Good questioning

    Children were engaged and on task all lesson.

    Children devised their own success criteria and I gave them a choice of what task level to start at.

    I was told that to have made this an outstanding lesson I should have talked less (I get this one a lot) and given them more opportunity to learn from each other, e.g. when asking a question give them chance to talk through their answer with a partner.
  10. polly2

    polly2 New commenter

    Thanks for your replies, I am sorry I just realised I posted in the wrong place! I thought this was in primary!! There are a lot of interesting comments. I agree with many! I have the misfortune to have set 4!!! [​IMG] Oh dear!
  11. I hate this: if they're learning from each other doesn't this indicate they already know how to do it in which case surely the lesson is pitched too low? God I can just imagine the misconceptions if mine learnt from each other! As a teacher I see it as my job to teach!
  12. captain oats

    captain oats New commenter

    I suppose the theory behind this must be that it gives you the chance to see if there are any misconceptions?!?
    It annoyed me when the head said this as well, 'I was there to watch them not you.' Yes but in order for them to learn I have to spend time telling them and showing them how to do something.
  13. magic surf bus

    magic surf bus Star commenter

    Ah yes, the old chestnut about watching how the children learn, not watching how the teacher teaches, as if the two are somehow mutually exclusive.

    If they can all learn from each other via groupwork and peer evaluation what's the point of you being in the bloody classroom?

    I watched a pupil learning from a peer in a Maths lesson today. When I was at school we called it 'copying'.

    One can only hope this silly fad will go the way of all silly fads.
  14. Remembering to tell your children what the steps to success are .... which I do in every lesson except today when I had my performance management observation ... DOH! [​IMG]
  15. acertainsomething

    acertainsomething Occasional commenter

    I think there are dangers of talking too much from the teacher. So many teachers are afraid of the silences and feel they need to fill them, this is not the case, remember when being observed it is the children's progress that will judge the lesson, not how much the teacher was rattling on.
  16. OP :
    A fire drill interruption.
  17. Violalass

    Violalass New commenter

    OP, you feel "less confident" with maths than any other subject but you're a maths teacher?
  18. Back to the seventies with some of these 'new' ideas!
    I'd love to see a little experiment done. Take two groups of kids (as closely matched as possible) - choose a topic, say photosynthesis, then have one group taught by the teacher, the other group being allowed to 'interact' and 'discuss'.
    Then next lesson, give both groups the same test on photosynthesis.
    I have no doubt which group would score the highest.

  19. I think she's Primary, not specialist Maths.

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