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What is the problem in education?

Discussion in 'Personal' started by lanokia, Nov 7, 2015.

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What are the two biggest problems that need changing in education?

  1. Ofsted

    48.9%
  2. Data

    46.8%
  3. Observations

    14.9%
  4. Too many experienced teachers

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  5. Too many new teachers

    2.1%
  6. Parents

    2.1%
  7. SLT

    4.3%
  8. Political interference

    74.5%
  9. Lack of funding

    2.1%
  10. Poor quality buildings

    2.1%
Multiple votes are allowed.
  1. lanokia

    lanokia Star commenter

    Two votes folks...

    And I know I'm going to struggle. If I missed something you feel is important please feel free to add it.
     
  2. lanokia

    lanokia Star commenter

    Ofsted and data for me but I'd so easily add political interference.
     
    FolkFan likes this.
  3. Flere-Imsaho

    Flere-Imsaho Star commenter

    League Tables
    The "choice" of which school your child goes to which was a flagship policy when it was introduced but in reality seems to mean a horrible scramble, uncertainty and very little choice.
     
    lanokia likes this.
  4. lanokia

    lanokia Star commenter

    Damn it league tables!

    Should have had league tables in there.
     
    Flere-Imsaho likes this.
  5. foxtail3

    foxtail3 Star commenter

    Ofsted and political interference, but I'd also want to add data! Oh and perhaps observations!
     
  6. cuteinpuce

    cuteinpuce Star commenter

    This week, my main problems are i) chairs that lose their screws and become cheap-and-cheerful seesaws and ii) whiteboard pens coordinating their cycles and all running out at the same time.
     
    lanokia and kibosh like this.
  7. smoothnewt

    smoothnewt Star commenter

    Data and political interference for me.
     
    lanokia likes this.
  8. cissy3

    cissy3 Star commenter

    Lack of professional status, first rearing its nasty head with the 'National Curriculum.'

    (But this may only be for my subject.)

    Reams of asbolutely pointless recording (is that what you meant by data?)
     
    lanokia likes this.
  9. Scintillant

    Scintillant Star commenter

    For me it is very clear:

    People trying to reduce teaching and learning to simple metrics and then making dumb decisions based on these very flawed measures. You just cannot do it. Its origins were in Ofsted, who have somewhat rowed back from it now that the failings have been explained to them with numbers, but the damage has been done

    Lots of very bad things are happing in the name of this stupid approach. It isn't really that difficult to understand its failings either. Plenty of people are now pointing out the errors with this approach and the damage being done, but it is falling on deaf ears. It has spawned a management approach that is destroying teaching in UK. I don't think that is an overblown way of putting it either. We are in dire straits.
     
  10. teachingking123

    teachingking123 Established commenter

    Ofsted. Turns the people in the staffroom to panic mode.
     
    lanokia likes this.
  11. lanokia

    lanokia Star commenter

    Drum roll for votes...
     
  12. lilachardy

    lilachardy Star commenter

    IMO, Political interference causes (drives?) the others.
     
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  13. jacob

    jacob Lead commenter

    Initiative, after initiative, after initiative. All the edubo!!ocks since the mid 60s has probably been round about three times. Us oldies at least remember the last time stuff was tried and didn't work then, and never will work. These "elite" teachers being the latest. From where? Elite by whose choice? So glad I am now able to tell them that 90% of what they foist on us is a complete and utter waste of time (I no longer care, they can sack me).
     
    InkyP likes this.
  14. lanokia

    lanokia Star commenter

    Slipping... 115 voted on age... come on, we all have an opinion...

    Or maybe... do some here think there are no problems in education?

    Shocking I know but it's possible some might like the present circumstance.
     
  15. NellyFUF

    NellyFUF Lead commenter

    OFSTED and DATA.
    We now create data for OFSTED instead of teaching. That seems to be the problem.
    Two things would change things for the better. Smaller class sizes and supporting teachers to develop their personal strengths within a flexible system.
     
  16. colpee

    colpee Star commenter

    Low achievement is the historic underlying problem - most other problems are caused by inadequate methods of trying to fix it.
     
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  17. kibosh

    kibosh Star commenter

    If you remove the e and the a from education you are left with this
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  18. jacob

    jacob Lead commenter

    None of their so-called data would stand up to scrutiny by a statistician, because they do not compare like with like and there is no zero line. Its all bunk. The "office for national statistics" should destroy them, but being all government spinners, they don't.
     
    cissy3 and lanokia like this.
  19. monicabilongame

    monicabilongame Star commenter

    Political interference and ofsted because every other problem stems from that, imo.
     
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  20. emilystrange

    emilystrange Star commenter

    We're the Problem!
     

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