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What is allowed & not allowed?

Discussion in 'Personal' started by install, Aug 31, 2020.

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  1. install

    install Star commenter

    Agree in part. I have an issue with posters saying ‘You are a troll’ on public forums unless it is blatantly true. And maybe that is where the ‘grey area’ is.

    But I wouldn’t have a problem with someone asking politely ‘Are you a troll because it seems ....’. Then again I can see how a troll might even then play games with that approach.

    I do think posters should ‘ignore’ trolls if they find them offensive, suspect they have several user names, are rude and/or are out to wind other posters up. They do seem to present in many public forums other than these too. My understanding is that they crave attention because they have none in their own lives.
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  2. install

    install Star commenter

    I’m the same. I need full stops and hate predictive text.
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  3. Aquamarina1234

    Aquamarina1234 Star commenter

    I presume frodo's post was an exercise in irony.
    Red_observer, some might have found your thread title "For a teachers forum the amount of people with no knowledge is worrying" pretty offensive.
  4. install

    install Star commenter

    I presumed the same but thought it wise to take it at face value. And that’s the ‘grey area’ again creeping in.

    I didn’t mind red’s thread.
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  5. stopwatch

    stopwatch Lead commenter

    For me, it is often not what is being said, but how it is being said/the words used. Without wanting to sound like a snowflake, I would find 1, 3, 4 and 5 impolite and unnecessary, no matter how irritated you are by somebody.
    I don't have any problem with 2. Respond with 'No I don't' or (if it is true) fess up or ignore (which says it all really).
    I don't like 6 as, if allowed, gives the green light to all and sundry and the possibility of scamming.
    I think (hope!) that most of the time, I can express things politely, even if challenging somebody else's comments or behaviours.
    Oscillatingass and install like this.
  6. lindenlea

    lindenlea Star commenter

    Occassionally I've had posters respond rudely and it's not pleasant but I just drop out of the conversation, sometimes ignore too. I have a sharp pointy digit sometimes too and reserve the right to use it.
  7. Ivartheboneless

    Ivartheboneless Star commenter

    And once again, as with all threads that discuss them, there are 6 ignored posts. meaning contribution from the very ones I have identified and ignore!
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  8. lexus300

    lexus300 Star commenter

    When I think back to the days of 'opinion', then I think about 'personal', snowflakes come to mind. Anyway as I am on pre-mod., my guilt is obvious:p
  9. oldsomeman

    oldsomeman Star commenter

    To call something a lie needs to be proved.YOu cannot accuse and then not say why. Problem is each person makes their accusation based upon the material they read or upon their source of information.
    As an example, on this forum, a quote from one newspaper is automatically assumed to be wrong or unreliable, yet another, because it follows a different political ideology, is found acceptable.
    Plus folk push their own beliefs and find others peoples views unacceptable in their mind and so they are 'cut off' from being an alternative view.
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  10. racroesus

    racroesus Star commenter

    You are within my time-like volume.

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  11. red_observer

    red_observer Star commenter

    But it’s true
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  12. Mangleworzle

    Mangleworzle Star commenter

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  13. racroesus

    racroesus Star commenter

    I am unfailingly polite, unfailingly modest, unfailingly helpful and unfailingly sympathetic. I utter no maledictions, expletives, execrations, profanities or blasphemies. I indulge in no salacious discussions. I may be dead.
  14. colacao17

    colacao17 Lead commenter

    Personally I'd just ignore certain posters in all their incarnations. Let others engage if they wish.
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  15. install

    install Star commenter

    Yes I agree. On other public forums it causes problems too. For me as long as it doesn’t get personal or attacking another poster I am fine.
  16. lexus300

    lexus300 Star commenter

  17. install

    install Star commenter

    Again I agree and find this on lots of public forums. The ‘incarnations’ if they continue to show the same disturbing traits are a problem. I understand why posters may need to change their name but I am not sure I get having several user names on the same platform.
  18. install

    install Star commenter

    You are alive . I guess there is fun and entertainment to be had with expletives etc but isn’t that as long as it’s not aimed at a poster on any social media?
  19. Mangleworzle

    Mangleworzle Star commenter

    Saying a third party source is a lie is not the problem, it is either verified or not. I tend to abide by the various adages that say that "Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof". If a position is taken, especially an extreme or a generally not supported one, then the claimant needs to provide the proof rather than expect others to prove why it is not so. "The fairies at the bottom of my garden control the weather" for instance, should you be required to disprove that, or should I provide evidence for my somewhat surprising claim?

    It is when the lies are personal with posters changing their viewpoint according to their preferred truth at the time and when they refer to things they have said or positions taken in the past to verify what they are saying now which are not true that it all becomes a bit invidious. I'm not going to trawl through hundreds of posts to look for something I remember clearly as proof, but it doesn't mean that I am not 100% sure the poster is lying, nor that they don't know that they are lying either.
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  20. install

    install Star commenter

    Isn’t the ‘ignore’ function cutting out possibly important parts of the thread though? The ignored parts may be replied to by others.

    And how long should one ignore another poster for ?
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