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What did the EU ever do for you?

Discussion in 'Personal' started by eljefeb90, Apr 16, 2019.

  1. Rott Weiler

    Rott Weiler Star commenter Forum guide

    I don't normally read all your posts because they are so repetitive but since you've asked nicely I have read it now. You didn't clarify anything. You were caught red handed posting an untrue statement and so you changed tack.

    Ireland isn't a "special case" and its voting on EU treaty changes isn't agreed by the EU or have anything to do with the EU. It's part of Ireland's domestic Constitution, and applies also to things that are nothing whatsoever to do with the EU, eg Abortion rights. The UK could have exactly the same constitution if it wanted to but has chosen not to.
    Last edited: Apr 25, 2019
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  2. Happygopolitely

    Happygopolitely Established commenter

    Absolutely wrong. Ireland is a 'special case' . I don't normally read your posts because they often react without reading all posts properly and thoroughly. You have been caught red handed not reading all posts and especially those that clarify earlier posts.
  3. Happygopolitely

    Happygopolitely Established commenter

    The 'special case' explained even further on the bbc website too for even further clarity. Called 'Ireland and the eu, a special case' by John McCormack :

    'If a majority of Irish citizens vote against a treaty in a referendum, that means it can't take effect in any eu member state at all'.

    So if you do not think it a 'special case' let the bbc website know they are wrong. Or maybe they are right?
  4. Rott Weiler

    Rott Weiler Star commenter Forum guide

    LOL :D
  5. Happygopolitely

    Happygopolitely Established commenter

    No problem.
  6. Happygopolitely

    Happygopolitely Established commenter

    Yes its all there on the bbc website. They actually the phrase 'special case' to hammer home the point of Ireland and the eu.. ;)
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  7. FrankWolley

    FrankWolley Star commenter


    There are few points to ponder on...
  8. LondonCanary

    LondonCanary Star commenter

    The government have already announced the tariffs for no deal, so the above won't apply.
  9. Duke of York

    Duke of York Star commenter

    You'll forgive me for pointing out that people had had enough of conflict after the Great War. It's why when it was over, they called it the war to end all wars.

    Sadly, history proved that to be incorrect. What nobody can deny as being correct though is that none of the EU members have been at war with each other since becoming trading partners in the EU.

    If we're discussing history, perhaps we ought to consider how frequently the countries of the British Isles were at war with each other before joining together in the union we know as the United Kingdom; and reflect on how many wars between those countries we've had since.

    Economic and political union works.
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  10. florian gassmann

    florian gassmann Star commenter

    None of the EU members have been at war with each other since joining the World Trade Organisation. None of the EU members have been at war with each other since joining the United Nations. Both of which pre-date the EU by many years.
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  11. mathsman

    mathsman Occasional commenter

    They weren't really your friends
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  12. burajda

    burajda Star commenter

    But European countries that are not EU members have been at war with each other even though they are WTO and UN members. Most recently Ukraine and Russia, before that the former Yugoslavian states. Then there was the Cold War division when East and Western Europe were pointing tanks and missiles at each other ready for MAD.
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  13. burajda

    burajda Star commenter

    As for the UK, we tend to forget that one large member of our Union did leave in 1922 because economic and political union didnt work for them and armed struggle was seen by many as the only method of getting out of the Union
  14. florian gassmann

    florian gassmann Star commenter

    Imagining that the former Yugoslav states, or Russia and Ukraine, would have been bosom pals if only they had been in the trade association, reveals serious gaps in your knowledge of European political history.
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  15. burajda

    burajda Star commenter

    You're right , France and Germany (Prussia) were different as they had been bosom friends for centuries
  16. lexus300

    lexus300 Star commenter

    Another good reason to leave then.
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  17. lexus300

    lexus300 Star commenter

    Fairy tales.
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  18. lexus300

    lexus300 Star commenter

    All easily achieved in or out just requires the political will. Were there further wars between us after 1945 until we joined?
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  19. lexus300

    lexus300 Star commenter

    In which case it might be time for our farmers to stand on their own two feet.
  20. lexus300

    lexus300 Star commenter

    Even with TM's botched negotiations I think an armed struggle to leave is unlikely;)
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