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Voluntary Redundancy

Discussion in 'Workplace dilemmas' started by markjeppo, Feb 29, 2016.

  1. markjeppo

    markjeppo New commenter

    The finances of our school are in a mess due to falling numbers, site maintenance issues and the general squeeze on school finances caused by austerity politics. So as I am one of those expensive UPS3 teachers, I had a chance to take voluntary redundancy and have just been accepted. This fills me with dread and elation at the same time, but I am ready to move on.

    My question is can I now accept a job offer to start elsewhere in September? My current employer is the Local Authority/maintained sector. I'd be looking at part-time work, and there may be opportunities coming up in local academies or free schools.

    I understand that under some circumstances there has to be a four week break in service (so I can't be re-employed by the same LA for a September start), but does this apply to free schools or Academies? Any advice/links to information would be much appreciated.
     
  2. Alf58

    Alf58 Established commenter

    Can you clarify? Will you be officially redundant from 31st August? If this is the case you cannot take up employment in teaching until four weeks have elapsed or risk losing your redundancy payment. The simple reason is the redundancy payment is to tide you over your time of hardship but if you walk straight into another job you will not have been unemployed and not suffered financial hardship.
     
  3. HelenREMfan

    HelenREMfan Star commenter

    I took voluntary redundancy though quite a long time ago now as my school was closing. I was advised via HR relating to re-employment issues so maybe it would be better for you to ask them. Regarding many of the posts here about expensive, older teachers I think you might have been fortunate to be offered redundancy!
     
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  4. Piranha

    Piranha Star commenter

    Yes, sometimes the terms of redundancy state that you cannot start another job for a fixed length of time. This is not always the case - I once started a new job the day after finishing the old one, but you need to check. If I were you, I would try to get something in writing.
     
  5. FrankWolley

    FrankWolley Star commenter


    Agreed.


    Also make sure you speak to your Union (at professional officer level).
     
  6. johnberyl

    johnberyl Occasional commenter

    At the beginning of my career, it wasn't at all uncommon for people to accept voluntary redundancy one day and then start back with the organisation, to all intents and purposes in the same job on the next working day and this included both statutory redundancy pay, a top-up redundancy payment and with full payment in lieu of notice to a maximum of 12 weeks. How times have changed!
     
  7. TheoGriff

    TheoGriff Star commenter

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    You must be having real mixed feelings over this! Difficult to leave a job under what possibly seems like unhappy circumstances, but good to have an easy exit. I think that your

    sums it up very well.

    You need to find out for sure, and that means getting it in writing (e-mail counts) from the people who will be administering this. HR at the Local Authority. If you get the answer by phone, then e-mail back something like this Thank you for phoning me today about the conditions attached to the payment of the redundancy. I confirm that you informed me that . . .. Then ask a question at the end, for example Could you please tell me what date this payment is likely to be made? That way you will get a reply, and if they don't contradict what you wrote, you have proof. Make sure that you write exactly what was said to you. You want the proof to be truthful and honest!

    If they say that there must indeed be a 4 week minimum period, that makes it difficult for getting another job, because apart from maternity leave, a new school will need somebody to begin Sept 1st.

    Two possible ways around this. Possible only!

    • You ask for your last date of employment to be 31 July.
    • You ask another school not to pay you for September, when you will be a volunteer.
    These may not be acceptable . . .

    Come to the Jobseekers Forum (scroll down the forums list to find it) and ask for support in applying for a new job. It's probably some time since you were out there job hunting, you may well need a refresher course, which I can provide for you.

    Best wishes

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  8. markjeppo

    markjeppo New commenter

    Thank you for everyone's responses, and I will most definitely be making a stopover at the Jobseekers Forum. My contract ends on 31st August and I have now been directed to speak with someone in HR to clarify matters.

    To be honest I'll be in no rush to get back into the classroom (and I have made some provision to cope with being jobless for several months without touching the redundancy money), but it is always good to be informed of the full facts.

    I've been at the same school for 10+ years so it's something of a wrench leaving, but the job ain't what it used to be! Looking forward to a period of calm.
     
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  9. TheoGriff

    TheoGriff Star commenter

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    You may even get it before you leave, as knowing things are settled can have a calming effect.

    Best wishes

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