We have a child in Y3 with a brother in Y6 who has been categorically told, from a young age, that you need to punch people who do the wrong thing. The father, who has rarely, if ever, been into school believes this strongly and the boys, naturally, deal with things they see by punching others, quite expertly and forcefully. The youngest has great difficuly with viewing what he does as in any ways wrong and is very anti authoritarian and defiant- he has great difficulty following rules- most specifically- not to hit someone whom you think is doing the wrong thing because it contravenes school policy. Today he had to be restrained by 2 adults because he would not accept that he had to miss his breaktime for punching a child on Friday. The child he hit (J) was winding up another girl (an ongoing behaviour of his) and he saw it as "justice" to punch him. Both were deemed to be in the wrong and to miss their playtimes but the first child (J) went out with the teacher because it was not a good idea for both to sit and miss their breaktime together. He would not agree at lunchtime that he could not go out to play, so the Head called his mother who came and took him home. What do other schools do with violent and defiant children in primary? Do they get sent home every time they are violent?