No, I got your point, I just didn't agree with it all. See, I don't think my 'negativity' is that; it's honesty. Saying another job in finance (or sales, PR, hotels...there are indeed loads) - is just as bad as many UK schools seem to be getting is a bit like someone who escaped from Kim's camps in North Korea not being allowed to join in the Q&A session for survivors of the Mugabe regime. Pomza knows that I know he's a good manager. I think he finds it hard to believe that such managerial ineptitude exists, because often if you're doing a good job, it's hard to imagine others making a pig's breakfast of it. He also knows that I don't rate the bulk of New Order SLT very highly. Would you, if you were me?