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USA - possible dictatorship?

Discussion in 'Personal' started by chelsea2, Sep 24, 2020.

  1. chelsea2

    chelsea2 Star commenter

    'Win lose or draw in this election will you commit here today for a peaceful transferal of power after the election?' Trump was asked at the top of his press briefing.

    'Well, we'll have to see what happens,' Trump replied. “You know that. I’ve been complaining very strongly about the ballots, and the ballots are a disaster.”

    Pressed again to “commit to making sure that there’s a peaceful transferal of power,” Trump responded, “Get rid of the ballots and...we’ll have a very peaceful—there won’t be a transfer, frankly. There will be a continuation.

    This sounds more like Belarus or a similar dictatorship than any democratic country.
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  2. costermonger

    costermonger Occasional commenter

    Of course he won't go quietly and with dignity if he loses. He has never done anything with dignity in his life. The only question is whether the US constitution has enough backers on the Republican side to insist on his removal.
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  3. dumpty

    dumpty Star commenter

    He might have a point about elections being rigged, even if his method of dealing with that could be far too aggressive:


    I did not know about this until I saw Michael Moore's 'Farenheit 11.9'. It is not surprising as such that both sides will use all the power and money they have to adjust votes but the real question has to be when are they all going to sit down and do something about it?
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  4. Jamvic

    Jamvic Star commenter

    Maybe a special room could be built for him in the White House.


    You can’t really blame him for not wanting to leave. All his stuff is there after all.

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  5. colacao17

    colacao17 Lead commenter

    The biggest danger to democracy in the US is not Trump himself it's the complacency that leads people to think that their democracy cannot possibly be threatened or overthrown.
    4 year ago they ddn't think he'd be elected.
    He's done lots of things noone would have ever believed a president of the US would do.
    'Dictatorship' would be just another one on the list.
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  6. racroesus

    racroesus Star commenter

    There are always people who support dictatorships. They generally join the party.
  7. lanokia

    lanokia Star commenter

    Every politician goes into an election acting if they are 100% sure they are going to win.

    Trump is not going to acknowledge a transfer of power... note that the Democrats have said that Biden should not concede in election night but that didn't engender hyperbolic nonsense about "possible dictatorship"... so a perfectly normal state of affairs is transformed through the lens of "OrangeManBad" into this...

    And Belarus is an "Actual" dictatorship which nobody cared about and nobody still cares about...
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  8. costermonger

    costermonger Occasional commenter

    Trump is right about the election being rigged, because he is doing everything he can to rig it. Voter suppression, preventing postal voting, gerrymandering, he's attempting to steal the vote with every dirty trick going. And announcing it loud and proud. He is also clearly saying he won't accept a vote he loses, and effectively calling for civil war. The man is a dangerous lunatic.
  9. Nellyfuf2

    Nellyfuf2 Lead commenter

    Surely the States must have some sort of law that they can use against people that attack their Consitution?
  10. LondonCanary

    LondonCanary Star commenter

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  11. Scintillant

    Scintillant Star commenter

    He's winding up for the big one.

    Should be great to watch from a long way away.

    We all know he's
    a) going to win
    b) or claim the election was stolen.

    It's going to be trouble.
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  12. Morninglover

    Morninglover Star commenter

    Trump has no class. George H W Bush (not someone I would have voted for, if I were a US citizen), on the other hand had:

  13. chelsea2

    chelsea2 Star commenter

    The Democrats say Biden shouldn't concede on election night - given the number of postal votes, especially this round, that is reasonable.

    Trump is refusing to confirm he will concede at all, regardless of the results.

    There is a huge difference.

    He can only see two outcomes: he wins, or there has been a fraudulent election, which he will refuse to accept. That way is dictatorship.
    Last edited: Sep 24, 2020
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  14. NoseyMatronType

    NoseyMatronType Star commenter

    What we maybe need to do is to first of all construct a place like The Village from the old TV series The Prisoner.

    Then a whole bunch of the current generation of nasty, bullying, authoritarian politicians ranging from Xi Jinping through to characters like Ayatollah Khamanei, Assad, Kim Jong Un, Duterte, Orban, Putin and especially Trump would just need hoovering up and dumping there.

    What a complete shower of useless s**t that lot are.

    Plus, it would be fun watching them get chased after by Rover if any of them tried to escape.

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  15. LondonCanary

    LondonCanary Star commenter

    Do you think the Army will support Trump or the Constitution?
  16. hplovegame48

    hplovegame48 Occasional commenter

    As I understand it as of noon on Inauguration Day, the military shift allegiance to the new Commander in Chief and any not doing so can be charged with mutiny and sedition. As for the 'football' and the accompanying officer - the codes as of noon that day become null and a new officer with a football and codes joins the new President.
    Up till then, let's wait and see.
  17. LondonCanary

    LondonCanary Star commenter

    TBH Given where the US is now. I can't see why anyone who voted for Trump in 2016 wouldn't vote for him now.
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  18. blazer

    blazer Star commenter

    It's not Trump but those idiots with the machine guns who follow him. f they turn out onto the streets there could be carnage.
  19. LondonCanary

    LondonCanary Star commenter

    They aren't machine guns. Ownership the few around is strictly controlled otherwise illegal.
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  20. racroesus

    racroesus Star commenter

    There's a thing.

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