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USA 2020: Democrat nominees

Discussion in 'Personal' started by lanokia, Apr 25, 2019.

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Who should be the Democratic nominee?

  1. Bernie Sanders

    6 vote(s)
    24.0%
  2. Joe Biden

    3 vote(s)
    12.0%
  3. Elizabeth Warren

    3 vote(s)
    12.0%
  4. Cory Booker

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  5. Tulsi Gabbard

    3 vote(s)
    12.0%
  6. Kirsten Gillibrand

    1 vote(s)
    4.0%
  7. Kamala Harris

    1 vote(s)
    4.0%
  8. Beto O'Rourke

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  9. Andrew Yang

    1 vote(s)
    4.0%
  10. Other

    7 vote(s)
    28.0%
  1. lanokia

    lanokia Star commenter

    Who should the Democrats choose to run against Trump?
    upload_2019-4-25_12-20-53.png

    With 20 candidates I could only put eight in the poll... so if you think one of the other 12 should be then please click other and state who.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-47601125

    Biden has declared he is running. Sanders has a good early lead and good name recognition but does age count against him? And is it "who will make the best President?" or "Who can beat Donald Trump?" irrespective of competency for the job.

    Don't get why Biden didn't run back in 2016 if he wanted the job.. .did he have a deal with Clinton.

    For more on each of the runners: https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/02/2020-democratic-presidential-candidates-190225202457543.html

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_Democratic_Party_presidential_primaries
     
  2. lanokia

    lanokia Star commenter

    This chart off the wikipedia link is a nice little colourful breakdown of the Primary votes.
    upload_2019-4-25_12-30-18.png
     
  3. LondonCanary

    LondonCanary Lead commenter

    TBH At this stage I don't care anymore about this than who is running for president in khazakstan in 2020.
     
  4. newposter

    newposter Occasional commenter

    I am not sure who they should pick, but it must be someone who can win. Picking Clinton last time was an embarrassment. From Dukakis to Kerry, Democrats have too often picked a wrong ‘un.
     
  5. friedgreentomatoes

    friedgreentomatoes Lead commenter

    I voted Biden because I really like him, but I don't know a lot about the others at the moment. I agree that the Democrats need to think very carefully about who is capable of winning, and I don't think Sanders is.
     
  6. MacGuyver

    MacGuyver Occasional commenter

  7. MAGAorMIGA

    MAGAorMIGA Star commenter

    Pete Buttigieg for me, though my heart says Sanders with Warren as running mate.
     
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  8. nervousned

    nervousned Senior commenter

    Aren't you uncomfortable about the way Biden treats women?
     
  9. friedgreentomatoes

    friedgreentomatoes Lead commenter

    To be honest, I do not know a lot about that but I definitely would be uncomfortable with someone who had a bad record on women. I will do some more research and may well amend my view.
     
  10. nervousned

    nervousned Senior commenter

    He has a long history of touching women inappropriately.
     
  11. friedgreentomatoes

    friedgreentomatoes Lead commenter

    I admit I was not aware of that (and I am well aware that I am sounding very shallow now in my liking of him!). Thank you for your input; I will look at the rest of the candidates in more detail now.
     
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  12. lilyflower18

    lilyflower18 New commenter

    I've lived in the US since 2012. I like Elizabeth Warren and Pete Buttigieg.

    I'm really not a fan of Bernie Sanders - I don't think he's truly a Democrat. He was elected as an Independent but he caucuses with the Democrats because it suits him. He's not likable at all and I find him to be extremely hypocritical. I also think he is too old.
     
  13. MacGuyver

    MacGuyver Occasional commenter

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  14. newposter

    newposter Occasional commenter

    Biden won’t survive the Republican machine that awaits him. Too many skeletons.
     
  15. artboyusa

    artboyusa Lead commenter

    Biden is a human joke machine. I can see it now
    "BIDEN 2020 - Touching America"
    Besides which, he's too old. If he made it through two terms he'd be 85 when he left office.
     
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  16. lanokia

    lanokia Star commenter

  17. artboyusa

    artboyusa Lead commenter

    Maybe...still can't see him beating Trump though. And there's this, among many other things.
    Joe Biden's 2020 Ukrainian nightmare: A closed probe is revived
    Two years after leaving office, Joe Biden couldn’t resist the temptation last year to brag to an audience of foreign policy specialists about the time as vice president that he strong-armed Ukraine into firing its top prosecutor.
    In his own words, with video cameras rolling, Biden described how he threatened Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko in March 2016 that the Obama administration would pull $1 billion in U.S. loan guarantees, sending the former Soviet republic toward insolvency, if it didn’t immediately fire Prosecutor General Viktor Shokin...
    But Ukrainian officials tell me there was one crucial piece of information that Biden must have known but didn’t mention to his audience: The prosecutor he got fired was leading a wide-ranging corruption probe into the natural gas firm Burisma Holdings that employed Biden’s younger son, Hunter, as a board member.
    U.S. banking records show Hunter Biden’s American-based firm, Rosemont Seneca Partners LLC, received regular transfers into one of its accounts — usually more than $166,000 a month — from Burisma from spring 2014 through fall 2015, during a period when Vice President Biden was the main U.S. official dealing with Ukraine and its tense relations with Russia.
    https://thehill.com/opinion/white-h...ukrainian-nightmare-a-closed-probe-is-revived

    The Dems better hurry up with their impeachment circus if they want the White House back.
     
    Last edited: May 13, 2019
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  18. lexus300

    lexus300 Star commenter

    Trump will more than likely get a second term in office.:p:p:p:p:p:p:p:p:p
     
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  19. lanokia

    lanokia Star commenter

    Sorry, I wasn't clear... it's for the Democratic Primaries... not for the General.
     
  20. Mangleworzle

    Mangleworzle Star commenter

    Funny, but you don't see Trump supporters criticizing Trump for the same (or worse). I'm not defending Biden, just pointing out the hypocrisy.
     

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