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US teacher wants to teach in Australia!

Discussion in 'Teaching overseas' started by Mountainme, Jul 1, 2018.

  1. Mountainme

    Mountainme New commenter

    Hello all,

    I have been lurking, but decided to try to find some actual information at long last. I am an English and Special Education teacher here in the US and I am very interested in moving to Australia to teach. Anyone with experience there? It seems like folks from the UK can move to/work in AU easier but I'm not sure if that is true.

    I love living in rural areas, not sure if that is a help to me in finding positions or not...
     
  2. Mountainme

    Mountainme New commenter

    bumping, come on, 62 views, no replies!
     
  3. tjh102

    tjh102 Occasional commenter

    Hi.

    I work at an Australian international school. My colleagues tell me that even for Australians, it is hard to get a job in the cities etc. However, jobs in remote areas, including the islands, are easier to come by.

    I can try and get some more information from colleagues this week. One of our teachers is a graduate teacher who couldn't get a job in Australia, so came here to get a few years experience first, to make her more desirable in the Australian job market.
     
  4. tesolmath

    tesolmath New commenter

    Greetings, sometime lurker, Mointainme!

    I have been googling now for about ten minutes to try to find some info for you. I am a compatriot of yours currently expatriate near Dubai.

    So far the best lead I have found points back to the TES site:

    https://www.tes.com/jobs/careers-ad...s/teaching-australia-everything-you-need-know

    Justlanded DOT com may also help out with general information about visas and residency in general.

    Best of luck! Please let us know if you find out anything helpful.

    Tesolmath
     
  5. tesolmath

    tesolmath New commenter

    Mountainme;

    I think I found the exact resource you want.

    https://pathwaytoaus.com/blog/working-teacher-australia/

    https://www.aitsl.edu.au/migrate-to-australia

    The second link here provides precise guidelines for getting your US degree(s) and certificate(s) assessed by the concerned Australian authority. It seems it may involve about a three-month process. I imagine that if the authority discovers deficiencies they will indicate what you can do to make them up.

    Again, best of luck! I, for one, would be most interested to learn of your progress if you choose to follow this path.

    Tesolmath
     
  6. T0nyGT

    T0nyGT Lead commenter

    You need to get your certificates assessed by AITSL. This takes exactly 10 weeks to the day. After this you will be able to enter the code AITSL give you in to a visa application online (an 'expression of interest' after which you will be invited to apply for a visa). The visa takes on average 5 months apparently. After this you need to register with the teaching board for the state you wish to work. This takes 2 months. The entire process will cost about $6000 US I believe.

    As you can see, you've got to REALLY want to work there to make this process work
     
  7. swsimp160

    swsimp160 New commenter

    I taught in Brisbane for four years. Big shortage of Maths, Chemistry and Physics teachers and if you teach one of these subjects you can basically pick your school. No jobs for anything else. Wages and pensions are fantastic and quality of life amazing. Australia has not had a recession for over 20 years. There are a lot of private schools in Australia you could try writing to them directly or get supply in a rural area (I lived in a town 2 hours from Brisbane for a year and got full time general supply. It was no more than baby sitting but paid over $300/day). Teachers are no longer on the skills list for visas and we got in because my wife is a midwife. Good luck it is an amazing place with fantastic standard of living and quality of life and if all else fails marry an Ozie.
     
  8. swsimp160

    swsimp160 New commenter

    Teachers are no longer on the skill list for visas.
     
  9. T0nyGT

    T0nyGT Lead commenter

  10. philippkirsch

    philippkirsch New commenter

    @Mountainme ..........I have been lurking too......wondering if I should reply to your post or not...but having lived in the US for 25 years, and the rest of my life in Australia and elsewhere, I can understand the place that your question is coming from......and I hope a little perspective – some actual information - will be helpful........


    Please understand that Australia is a very big country. The land area is not so different from the USA if you do not count the state of Alaska. Australia has six states and two mainland territories. By the way, the actual land mass of most of these states is huge. For example, Queensland is 2.5 times bigger than Texas, and 4.3 times bigger than California (and I know that Texas pretty much thinks it is bigger than anywhere else). I hope this gives you a little perspective.


    [For our TES readership, Great Britain will fit 7.6 times into Queensland, and depending what happens Post-Brexit, Little England would fit 14.2 times into Queensland].


    Each state and territory has it's own education department. If you want to work in the government schools, you will need to get yourself registered with relevant boards in the state of interest. For example, in Queensland, this is the Queensland College of Teachers (aka QCT). Each state board has lots of information on their websites (e.g. http://www.qct.edu.au/registration: which states "To teach in a Queensland school you must be registered with the QCT"). They even have forms and checklists for the information that is required to apply for state board registration. The state departments of education also have lots of information, and each state government has their own jobs website (e.g. https://smartjobs.qld.gov.au/) where you can register and build your cv and portfolio.


    I suggest you do a little homework to inform your dream. Spend a few hours, or days, or actually weeks doing some research. Australia is a very well developed country, with magnificently fine tuned bureaucracy in every facet of life. Max Weber's Iron Cage of Bureaucracy is very much alive in education management across Australia. You can get a lot of real actual information published to the myriad government and other education websites. I think Dr. Google will easily yield many answers – some actual information - if you care to ask.


    But, be forewarned, the Australian education market is full of teachers. There is no shortage, with a possible exception for Special Education Needs. Popular opinion speaks of a shortage in some specialist sciences and mathematics, but this is probably a highly localized phenomenon at best. One could say the market is quite oversubscribed already.


    Some time ago, I posted analyses of the Queensland teaching employment market reports to a separate TES thread (see page 3) -https://community.tes.com/threads/1000-international-jobs-still-advertised.775694/page-3#post-12494180


    The word 'No shortage' in these reports is very accurate. It really does not matter if you come from the UK, the US, Canada or anywhere else, except New Zealand. In this oversubscribed market, with universities continuing to pump out more and more new teaching graduates every year, it is not easy for an Australian teacher to get a full time job teaching in Australia. It will not be any easier for you.


    Aussies and Kiwis can freely work in each other’s country, but, like anyone else, we must still get board registration for the local jurisdiction.
     
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  11. T0nyGT

    T0nyGT Lead commenter

    As above, I don't really understand why teaching is still listed as a shortage subject but it would appear that there are some remote geographical areas that could use teachers and some subjects which are still under subscribed. Certainly, when I began looking in to emigrating earlier this year, there were some schools who were interested in talking to me because they found it difficult to recruit quality teachers in my subject.

    However, in general, I would never let saturation put you off too much. If you're a good teacher, can back that up with references and are well qualified and experienced, you'll get a job anywhere . Anyone who's ever been involved in recruiting will know that great teachers are few and far between and it doesn't matter how many they're churning out of universities if you're much further along the experience and skills level.

    However, you do need to really want this. It's going to cost you a small fortune and be a very difficult. Also, you need to consider that unless you can offer something very special to a school, you will have to be in the country before you can apply for a job (some schools will accept Skype interviews but only if they can't find someone else) . So you will be paying extortionate rents on a property without any income.
     
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  12. rideemcowboy

    rideemcowboy New commenter

    I think it is reasonable to assume that the vast majority of readers and commenters on TES are from the UK or working internationally in British schools. Therefore, knowledge and experience from an Australian perspective may be limited.
    I do know that England has tightened regulations on the ability for Australians to work here. Lord knows how we are going to replace all the bar staff. I assume this is an English overreaction to the feedback on undesirables entering these shores. Obviously, Australians are more than proud of being labelled as undesirable however it would be politically incorrect to discriminate against anyone else. I wonder if the Australian will respond in kind. But I digress.
    As for teachers from the U.S. moving to Australia, I have heard that they have a strong preference for Mexicans and possibly Canadians, on the condition they are willing to modify their accent.
     
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  13. snitzelvonkrumm

    snitzelvonkrumm Occasional commenter

    Were is in a silly mood when you wrote this Cowboy?
     

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