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URGENT!!! employability of Citizenship NQTs

Discussion in 'Secondary' started by Mayenka, Jun 17, 2007.

  1. blazer

    blazer Star commenter

    And all that was before they introduced the new 'brown bread and sandals' GCSE science syllabuses.
  2. gavcradd

    gavcradd New commenter

    I have no problem at all with Citizenship being a "proper" subject, I don't want to get into that argument. My issue is that, from my experience, very few schools that I've bee to have a dedicated citizenship teacher. Most teach it on a cross curricular basis or through form teachers. On that basis, if any one asked me if I'd recommend them train as a citizenship teacher by answer would be NO.

    It's a risky start to a career in my opinion.
  3. I can understand how teachers might think that training in citizenship is a risky start to a career. Indeed job prospects is one of the most frequently asked about topics at PGCE citizenship interviews.

    However, although the majority of schools don?t employ a citizenship trained specialist, the number of schools that do increases every year. And of the schools that do many will employ more than one. Several of the schools in my PCGE partnership now have established citizenship departments with 3 or even 4 PGCE trained specialists.

    If you add to the mix the fact that the TDA only fund 230 trainees a year to specialise in citizenship (compared to say 700+ in history) and that there are app. 3000-4000 mainstream secondary schools in England, then it quickly becomes obvious that trainees are scarce.

    The employability of citizenship PCGE students is in fact very good. All of the people who run PGCE courses will tell you that the job prospects are very good. The course I run has 21 students per year. I have yet to have a trainee not in a job in September (of those that look for employment that is). This year all students had jobs by the beginning of June.

    Also add to the mix that every year students will start their NQT year as subject leader, with a TLR package, and that the majority of alumni will be subject leaders in 2-3 years time?then it starts too look like a very good start to a career.

    The subject is also not short of applicants. The course I run has the highest applicant-to-place ratio of any secondary subject at the university. For next year?s course I have received 172 applicants for 21 places. The issue really isn?t will you get a job, but rather, will you get on the course.
  4. Perhaps the apathy shown by some on this forum is down to the fact that their subject at KS4 may not be a statutory subject, wheras Citizenship is? I appreciate that this is not necessarily manifested through targeted, effective Citizenship lessons though. As intelligent teachers we should all be able to appreciate the arguments of others, rather than let preconceptions shape our judgements. The Conservatives have supported the teaching of Citizenship throughout it's short educational life and have stated that they would keep it as part of the curriculum if they were to win power. They also have helped to shape prospective NC requirements and, as such, are unlikely to support a NC that promotes New Labour ideals. From my experience, and of the other 60 or so Citizenship teachers I know, obtaining a job has been relatively easy. In addition it is common for a Cit NQT to become a HOD within a year or two. This may be the reason for added resentment towards the subject.
    Finally - to paraphrase a recent post - I would rather a Y11 leaver had an understanding of legal restrictions, STIs, human rights and being an active citizen than being able to tell me how a volcano erupts or who the Tolpuddle Martyrs were. Needless to say all subjects have their merits - but the merits of Citizenship education apply to every individual.
  5. I'm in my 2nd year of teaching as a Citizenship specialist and I am the Citizenship Coordinator for my school and have just gained another promotion for Sept to Head of Citizenship, PSHE and Careers. Quite a few of the people i trained with have also gained rapid promotion as well.
  6. I would add to my previous post that although not many schools have Citizenship specialists at present - SMT are very receptive to appointing specialists because as they are aware, it is an area that is not being well taught and Ofsted are looking for improved delivery.

    As Citizenship specialists know - putting a ring around the bits of it taught in Science etc - is not fulfilling requirements at all. That would be like saying we don't need English teachers beacuse all the other subjects together cover the English NC.

  7. blazer

    blazer Star commenter

    So we are teaching citizenship because OFSTED like it not because it actually does any good?
  8. You need to see a school where Citizenship is taught well and embedded across the curriculum.

    As head of citizenship, do you have any tips in applying for citizenship co-ordinator as a pgce student?

    Many thanks
  10. Who is this #d##t?
  11. Weald56

    Weald56 Established commenter

    Stuff & nonsense. We had an OfSTED two weeks ago - 'Outstanding' - no Citizenship teacher, or slot on the timetable.

    Citizenship is mostly for non academic schools - and as a non subject it will wither away...
  12. berry3534

    berry3534 New commenter

    Apologies for responding to an old post, but you posts seem to be the most knowledgeable on here.
    I want to do the Citizenship PGCE next year, is the position still the same re employability or has the recession had an effect?
    I did try to call you at the College a few weeks ago but I think you were on holiday.
    Many thanks
  13. berry3534

    berry3534 New commenter

    Many thanks for your advice.
    My degree is in Law and I have worked in the profession for many years now so I am limited on what else I could teach.
    An alternative is the Ambassadorship scheme but really fancy Citizenship as a subject... though not if my employability is then low.


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