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Unqualified teachers in the classroom, a real worry

Discussion in 'Secondary' started by SarahB101, Jun 9, 2008.

  1. In my experience, having a Phd does not mean someone will be a good teacher. Someone could be the most knowledgeable person who ever existed within a particular field yet STILL make an absolutely terrible teacher.
  2. Everything is half chance!! I know a wonderful teacher who has a Masters /teaching for 12 years/ only completed a PGCE recently/loads of research experience. Most people will agree - Real teachers are naturals.
  3. Quite.
    Having a PhD has nothing to do with teaching (unless it is in education, and I've not come across anyone who has a PhD in education teaching in the classroom- they're all in the ITT institutes). The PhD is a research degree (i.e. you have to contribute, peer reviewed, new knowledge in a significant way to the field) in a specialist subject that enabled the person to go on to further research in that subject, usually in a university or reseach company like a pharmaceutical company. Unless for some reason or other, that person decided to give up that line of work and become a teacher.
    The material of a PhD thesis is so specialised that it is practically redundant to GCSE and A level. In fact it is practically redundant to almost everything except that particular field of study/research job. So it does not, in itself, make a more knowledgeable teacher. In 7 years of teaching, I would sau I have used the work I did for my PhD, maybe once or not at all. The knowledge I gained during my research career, several times, but only as extensions to the curriculum.
    The ability to answer questions that needed thinking about and working out a probable, logical, based on knowledge, answer, I think does not come from doing a PhD, but is due to the type of person you are.
    My PhD counted for nothing when I became a teacher. I know because I started on M1 despite years of working in science research. I use my title at school because, to me, it is relevant that I can show the students that I valued education enough to do two degrees.
  4. I work with 2 colleagues with PhDs (I will eventually get off my bum and get one too, I hope).
    One uses his 'Dr' all the time and is a wonderful grump. He is a great teacher and enthuses his students in a hard science subject.
    The other does not use his 'Dr' and is an awful teacher (I have mentioned him elsewhere). He is a self aggrandising eejit and undermines his students confidence with constant comparisons bewteen his knowledge and theirs.
    So I would agree whole heartedly with you when you say
  5. I have an English degree and teach half a class of Year 10s approximately 6 times a week for an English teacher who cannot cope with the full 30 students. I am a Teaching Assistant Level 2, and have recently had an interview for a PGCE course. Although I earn £6 an hour yet do the same amount of prep/planning/teaching as the teacher, I am pleased to do it because it is valuable experience. However, if I wished to remain at TA level there is no way on Earth I'd do it as it basically is exploitation. I, however, am happy to be exploited! Until September anyway... On the other hand, a colleague of mine is also a TA Level 2 and teaches the SEN groups English. This person is the most dreadful teacher I have ever come across. She is truly awful, and has been reported more times than I care to mention. Yet there she remains, blissful in her ignorance.
    Both sides of the coin!


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