Post39 Christopher Curtis I totally agree but we have a big problem with shortage subjects (physics, chemistry and maths) and I know of a Chemistry teacher who recently was fast tracked (6 months) to be trained under the GTP training in school and is now an NQT. She is deemed to have passed her training but has never done a practical with any class or a demo and her subject knowledge is poor. We do not just have the problem of untrained teachers but (in shortage subjects) of poorly trained so called specialists. It is a real mess in some schools. I believe that in some areas there is only one physics teachers for every four schools.