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Discussion in 'Personal' started by suertesamp, Aug 10, 2020.

  1. suertesamp

    suertesamp New commenter

    I have had ENOUGH!

    I have had no work since March now, and have applied for hundreds of jobs, had four interviews and have been rejected from them all. Today I was interviewed for a TA job, and didn't get that, even though I worked at the school a year ago (clearly that wasn't enough for them). When that isn't bad enough, an agency arranged me to have an interview for a learning resource designer role, only to fine out that the job didn't exist, and that they only "might be expecting absences because of the Coronavirius".

    So, the only chance of me having a job now is if somebody catches Covid. Sound. Think I should just leave the profession now because my career in teaching has been one massive disappointment.

    I am depressed. This is honestly driving me to breaking point. I do not want to be here any more, because nothing looks bright about my future. I have ruled out having kids, marriage or owning a house because I have been unemployed most of my adult life. My degree was a complete waste of 3 years and I don't even know why I decided to do a masters.

  2. lentils22

    lentils22 New commenter

    I'm so sorry to hear what a tough time you've been having over the last few months - today must have been so disappointing, especially given that you understandably thought that having worked at the school previously would count for something.
    First and foremost, please contact your GP first thing tomorrow. If you feel that you're close to breaking-point then you need to get some professional help. That is by far the most important priority at the moment; everything else can wait.
    It's been a very strange time over the last few months and the job market is very unpredictable, so I wouldn't draw the conclusion that you should leave the profession just yet. Getting to the interview stage several times is in itself encouraging even if you weren't offered the job in the end. Have you considered private tutoring at all, as a short/medium term option? With a masters you could presumably offer tutoring to quite a high level in your specialism.
    However, that's for another day... Please call the GP or some other source of support and take your time over the rest.. xx
  3. Rott Weiler

    Rott Weiler Star commenter Forum guide

    Sorry to hear that. I don't have any thing concrete to advise but didn't want to read and run without saying I hope come up with something that can help. It's clearly so depressing for you.

    Your Profile says you are a Cover Supervisor, your post is about applying for TA roles. Are you a teacher with QTS? If so have you been looking for teaching roles?

    Please do contact the Education Support Network

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  4. stopwatch

    stopwatch Lead commenter

    I am genuinely, really sorry to hear your story @suertesamp. It reads like a list of bad ‘hits’ which would knock the spirit and will out of most people.
    I can’t offer you any concrete, specific help as, other than what you have written, I don’t know your personal circumstances or the resources for help available to you.
    I won’t say ‘I know how you feel’ as nobody knows exactly how you feel, only you. Having been through a similar experience in my 40’s I will say I can empathise with you and can imagine at least some of what you feel.
    So, what to do? There is lots of advice that people could give you, but only you will know if that helps your mental state or not.
    What I would say is that, although it might not feel like it, there is a way beyond your situation, even though it might not look that way at the moment. The first step is to accept where you are at the moment and don’t fight it - this only feeds the feelings of helplessness. Secondly, talk to someone. Don’t keep it to yourself. If you don’t have someone, then call Samaritans. They are there for anybody who needs to talk. In addition to this, consider putting your thoughts on paper. I kept a diary for about 7 years which really helped me to see things more clearly.
    Long term, maybe readjust your expectations, talk to someone about what options you have, maybe reconsider where you want to go in life. Start with the basics, a step at a time and go from there. There will be a place for you somewhere out there. You just sound like you haven’t found it yet, or are maybe looking in the wrong directions.
    Bottom line is to realise that there are people around you who care for your wellbeing and will help you. Don’t be afraid to ask. You have taken a first step here. That is a start. Go from there, bit by bit. Good luck and, please, never give up.
    Last edited: Aug 10, 2020
  5. stopwatch

    stopwatch Lead commenter

    Yes, I agree, seek the help of your GP as a priority, tomorrow. Tell him/her exactly how you feel. They are there as a first step to helping you.
    NB don’t be put off by thinking that GPs have enough to deal with at the moment. Your situation is, at the very least, as urgent and important as Covid.
  6. install

    install Star commenter

    I’m so sorry @suertesamp

    Do see a GP as others have said. Don’t give up. These are exceptional times and I am aware of others who cannot jobs at the moment too despite their qualifications. Something will come along but your mental and physical health always come first. You have to keep positive and start raising your confidence levels. And you have clearly worked hard to get where you are now - so don’t throw it away.

    I’ve looked at your other post below too :

    ‘I want to teach FE psychology but when I apply for lecturing roles I always get a rejection because I do not have the PGCE. I understand that you can get a level 4/5 diploma in teaching and I am thinking of doing it that way.
    I have done supply in secondary schools and I think its time for me to take the next step. I have a degree in psychology and I have almost finished my Masters.

    How do I go about getting a placement so that I can acquire the recommended teaching hours? ‘

    And I wonder if you might look at trying to get a bursary / PGCE placement next in secondary/FE ? Once on that you will get the teaching hours.

    The Samaritans info is below too. They are great to talk to.

    ‘ Whatever you're going through, you can call us any time, from any phone for FREE. Call 116123’
  7. caterpillartobutterfly

    caterpillartobutterfly Star commenter

    I'm sorry to hear that today has been a truly horrible day for you. As others have said there are people who can help if you feel really down.

    You posted about having problems with colleagues in the school you were at a year ago and I'm never sure if going back to a school where one had problems is a good idea, so maybe the rejection is a blessing in disguise. Being fair, you did post largely the same thing on both March and May and have repeatedly posted that you are giving up on being a TA or CS and that your career is a disaster and your degree a waste of time.

    You have been advised before to try a different career path as being a CS or TA doesn't seem to be for you, though doing them on supply appears marginally more successful, going by your posts.

    For a young person, being a CS or TA (With a contract or on supply) is unlikely to ever be a career as such, there is little promotion opportunity and the pay is naff. Maybe think outside the box and do something totally different? Something away from schools and education?
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  8. stopwatch

    stopwatch Lead commenter

    Even though the pay for CS and TA is ‘naff’, if the job fits your needs, both job wise and financially, consider it and take it.
  9. colacao17

    colacao17 Lead commenter

    It's two words and too easy to say, but do't despair. This is a difficult time in terms of job hunting - the uncertainty caused by the pandemic has messed things up.

    But, kids still need teachers and I think that between Sept and Dec there'll be jobs appearing - whetherfor presencial or remote learning.

    Also (and this might be something you're not thinking about right now but I'll just plant the seed) given that you don't have kids or mortgate, I'd strongly suggest trying teaching overseas. Again, recruitment has been messed up by Covid but things will get moving again and, given that you don't currently have a contract, you might even have an advantage in being able to travel at short notice.

    Good luck. Things will get better.
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  10. caterpillartobutterfly

    caterpillartobutterfly Star commenter

    Not if it makes you as unhappy as the OP is and has been for quite some time.
    Do overseas schools employ on CS and TA contracts? The OP isn't a qualified teacher, but I'm not sure that makes a difference?
  11. magic surf bus

    magic surf bus Star commenter

    Is teaching your only perceived route to a bright future? With a degree and master in Psychology I would have thought there might be other opportunities awaiting you. If your depression is making you think you don't want to be here any more then you should seek some sort of help or counselling, starting with your GP, but that will need some patience on your part as referrals don't always come instantly. Your posting history suggests an ongoing struggle to gain a foothold in school teaching, but that's not the only way to help people learn. It's always better to be here than not to be here.
  12. colacao17

    colacao17 Lead commenter

    Ah sorry. I assumed this was a teacher looking for TA roles because teaching roles were thin on the ground.

    There are schools who will take you on without PGCE and there are schools which will employ you while you do an IPGCE but yes, it does limit the choices.
  13. caterpillartobutterfly

    caterpillartobutterfly Star commenter

    Love this. :)
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  14. stopwatch

    stopwatch Lead commenter

    Without detracting from the OPs situation, I suggested TA as it, generally carries less stress and would give an adequate income. As far as a career is concerned, I would see that as a secondary concern at this point in time. A TA position would at least give some success and purpose.
    My understanding from reading the initial post is that the OP would be happy to consider TA.
    I’m not aware of the OPs previous posts or job history. If he/she has already tried this route, and it hasn’t been useful, then my suggestion may (or may not) be a moot point.

    On the overseas point, there are schools which will appoint teachers without a teaching qualification, but with a teaching degree.
    Having said that, I think there are probably more urgent things to consider over the next few days
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  15. becky70

    becky70 Occasional commenter

    Please get help - ring the Samaritans if that's what it takes you to get through the night. Then talk to your GP as others have said. This will pass.
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  16. celago22

    celago22 Established commenter

    Sign up with some supply agencies and consider doing some online cpd such as reach out for science, just to give yourself an edge over other candidates.
    What about tutoring or applying for intervention teacher roles?
    Have you had any feedback from your interviews? Do you have any reason to believe that your references could be letting you down? What do you think you need to improve on at interview?

    My advice is to seek emotional support first and foremost. Then, think about what you can do to practically gain a teaching position.

    Have you considered roles away from teaching? What was your master's in? I know the job market is crazy at the moment but people are still getting jobs and you will too.

    Good luck. Look after yourself.
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  17. jubilee

    jubilee Star commenter

    I do hope that you are claiming Universal Credit/Income-Based Jobseekers' Allowance, with Housing benefit and Council Tax relief whilst work is thin on the ground.

    When I worked at a Jobcentre I came across quite a few applicants who had struggled through on dwindling savings or family support until the money ran out and they were facing eviction. It takes weeks to get Benefits in place and people should be applying as soon as they meet the requirements and before they get desperate.
  18. suertesamp

    suertesamp New commenter

    I do not own QTS. I have been working as a cover on and off for 3 years. I don't enjoy cover anymore so I was applying for TA jobs, think it should be easy to get one. I can't even land a level 1 position..
  19. suertesamp

    suertesamp New commenter

    I am desperate for work. Since writing this I applied for a job in Portugal. I WILL accept it if I receive an offer.
    Initially I was limiting my search to the city where I live. Then I extended it to nationwide. Now, I will take a job anywhere in the world. That's how desperate I've become.
  20. suertesamp

    suertesamp New commenter

    Nope. Last time I applied my claim was rejected. Apparently I'm not entitled. I will run out of money eventually, and will likely be without a roof over my head quite soon.

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