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Ulysses Poem/ Him as a villain

Discussion in 'English' started by msv, Feb 9, 2016.

  1. msv

    msv New commenter

    Hi all,

    I'm currently guiding a student I tutor complete his CA and it's on comparing how Macbeth and Ulysses are presented as both heroes and villains, now this isn't so much an issue with Macbeth- it's quite easy if anything, but I'm really struggling to see how Ulysses is presented as villain in Tennyson's poem. It seems a bit harsh of a word. If anyone has any interpretations of how he may come across as being 'villainous' then I'd really appreciate it.

    Thank you in advance.
  2. Flere-Imsaho

    Flere-Imsaho Star commenter

    His utter contempt for his son - damned with faint praise.
    His rejection of his wife and community - one old and barren and the other mere savages.
    And then where's he going? He presents it as the heroic quest but he's just off chasing adventure because he's bored - either that or he's committing suicide in a particularly lengthy way (again dressing it up as heroism) because can't face the domestic chores.
    And so vain.
  3. defenceagainstthedarkarts

    defenceagainstthedarkarts Occasional commenter

    Well, now that Flere has ruined one of my favourite poems ;) - I would approach in a similar way, especially considering they are both fallen heroes so to speak: one due to age (!) and the other due to his wife, though that's arguable of course.
  4. Flere-Imsaho

    Flere-Imsaho Star commenter

    It's one of my favourites too. But he is just a big baby having a mid life crisis.
  5. msv

    msv New commenter

    Haha! Great.

    Many thanks to both of you for your guidance :)

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