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Ukraine elects professional comedian to do top job

Discussion in 'Personal' started by Duke of York, Apr 21, 2019.

  1. Duke of York

    Duke of York Star commenter

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-48007487

    That's upped the ante for other world leaders, ain't it? You can't blame the Ukrainians for being fed up with amateur comedians running their country, when there's the chance of getting a professional to do it.

    Let's hope the idea spreads to all nations, so we can genuine value for money from the jokers who enter politics. Although the Commons attempts to portray itself as the Comedy Store, I can't see anyone wanting to buy tickets to watch it, but you know what? Maybe they would if we got the chance to vote for proper comedians.

    Which of your all-time favourite comedians would you have in the cabinet and what would you put them in charge of?
     
  2. HelenREMfan

    HelenREMfan Star commenter

    Peter Cook would have done well.... better than 101% of the dross we have had during the past 40 years.
    Johns Bird and Fortune too would have easily passed as competent politicians (after all there is little competition)
    Would love to have Peter Kaye though....can you imagine how the party political broadcasts would go...??
     
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  3. sparkleghirl

    sparkleghirl Star commenter

    Probably less of a clown that some of those already in similar roles.
     
  4. oldsomeman

    oldsomeman Star commenter

    It might make more sense if you realise the other candidate was in favour of closer ties with Russia. Seems if he wished Russia coud offer him peace and maybe even Crimea, back plus gas and oil, if he toed more of the Russian line and not the West.
     
  5. LondonCanary

    LondonCanary Established commenter

    No.it gave us Gyles Brandreth.
     
  6. BertieBassett2

    BertieBassett2 Lead commenter

    Any of the Pythons.
     
  7. minnie me

    minnie me Star commenter

    Excellent
     
  8. LondonCanary

    LondonCanary Established commenter

    Majority privately educated, Oxbridge graduates. That's not much of a change.
     
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  9. lanokia

    lanokia Star commenter

    Like a PlusNet commercial?
     
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  10. primarycat

    primarycat Star commenter

    Bob Mortimer for health secretary. If Would I Lie To You are to be believed, he does his own dental work at home. At least he's got some practical experience.
     
  11. red_observer

    red_observer Star commenter

    Another western puppet bites the dust. When will we ever learn to back the wrong horse...
     
  12. Duke of York

    Duke of York Star commenter

    Alexi Sayle would have been a brilliant leader of the opposition during PMQs.
     
  13. blazer

    blazer Star commenter

    I would vote for Frankie Boyle as PM.
     
  14. afterdark

    afterdark Established commenter

    "would have been"? he's not dead ...yet
    Alexi Sayle is younger than Jeremy Corbyn.
     
  15. Duke of York

    Duke of York Star commenter

    That's true. I was thinking along the lines that when Alexei was at his most surreal, he'd have been up against Thatcher.

    Incidentaly, why does Amazon only do Alexa? Why can't we have an Alexei as well?
     
  16. oldsomeman

    oldsomeman Star commenter

    I assume you would prefer that Ukraine becomes part of Mother Russia again with all the lack of liberties that entails?
     
  17. MAGAorMIGA

    MAGAorMIGA Lead commenter

    Lots of comedians are seriously intelligent people and sharp observers of the world. It's a shame Victoria Wood is no longer with us because she would have been an amazing Prime Minister. How about someone like Charlie Brooker or (dare I say it?) Russell Brand?
     
  18. fraisier

    fraisier Occasional commenter

    In the 1981 French presidential elections, France's most famous stand-up comic and a hugely popular figure (also a very successful actor and a social campaigner), Coluche, campaigned to run for president, a memorable moment in French political history.

    https://www.pltv.fr/en/coluche-the-clown-who-was-an-enemy-of-the-state/

    His candidacy press conference was also memorable for the set-up and the main slogan:

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    : « J'appelle les fainéants, les crasseux, les drogués, les alcooliques, les pédés, les femmes, les parasites, les jeunes, les vieux, les artistes, les taulards, les gouines, les apprentis, les Noirs, les piétons, les Arabes, les Français, les chevelus, les fous, les travestis, les anciens communistes, les abstentionnistes convaincus, tous ceux qui ne comptent pas pour les hommes politiques à voter pour moi, à s'inscrire dans leurs mairies et à colporter la nouvelle. Tous ensemble pour leur foutre au cul avec Coluche. Le seul candidat qui n'a aucune raison de vous mentir ! »

    (I am calling all slackers, filthy people, drug addicts, alcoholics, poofs, women, parasites, youngsters, oldies, artists, prisoners, dy.kes, apprentices, Blacks, pedestrians, Arabs, French people, long-haired people, mad people, transvestites, former communists, staunch non-voters, in a nutshell all those people for whom politicians don't care to vote for me, and to register in town halls and spread the message. All together, we will sh.aft them hard. I am the only candidate with no reason whatsoever to lie to you").

    That was some campaign statement...

    Anyway, to cut a long story short (he was famous for his very irreverent humour and showman qualities, so his 5-month long campaign was extremely colourful), when he started his campaign (mainly on the radio and TV), he was obviously seen as an inconsequential joker with zero political experience etc. and was only credited with getting 5% of voting intention but gradually, things got serious as he managed to get traction for his ideas, and at some point he was on 18% voting intention weeks before the first round of voting (26 April 1981, I had just turned 19 so I could vote and like many youngsters I was in two minds who I was going to vote for, him or Mitterrand)...

    What happened next was rather disgusting but predictable. He was gradually pressurised (by the left and Mitterrand) to stand down as he was polling 16-20% of voting intention just a few weeks before the first round and could well have beaten Mitterrand (from whom he was nicking votes) into getting into the second round against Giscard D'Estaing as he was dangerously splitting the leftwing vote. Coluche even received many death threats, can't remember if these death threats were traced back at all.

    The context was tense. The left hadn't run the country for 23 years and Mitterrand had been trying to get to the very top for the past two decades (he was so desperate to get to the top that he had very reluctantly made an alliance with the fairly powerful Communists right from 1972 promising them the moon on a stick should he be elected president - from Wikipedia: The beginning of Mitterrand's first term was marked by a left-wing economic policy based on the 110 Propositions for France and the 1972 Common Programme between the Socialist Party, the Communist Party and the Left Radical Party. In fairness, making an alliance with the Communists was the only way at his age - 65 - that he was going to get elected president in the second round, it didn't work in 1974 but would work in 1981; after being elected in May 1981 he appointed 4 Communists as ministers... but 2 years later, in 1983, he operated a big economic u-turn and ditched the Communists...).

    Although the left and Mitterrand loved Coluche (a great bloke with a social conscience who would go on to set up a huge network of "paupers' restaurants" and food banks in 1985, known as The Restaurants du Coeur; very sadly, he died in a motorbike accident in 1986 but his legacy lives on - sadly, his Restaurants du Coeur are "thriving", 130 million meals were served last year), they certainly were in no mood to humour him on this occasion and very reluctantly, Coluche pulled out from the election campaign a month before the big day.

    The comedian and actor Coluche launched the idea of the Restos du Cœur on 26 September 1985. "I have a little idea, a bit like this... If there are people who would be interested in sponsoring a free soup kitchen, we'd start first in Paris and then spread to France's big cities." The first Resto du Coeur opened on 21 December and soon multiplied all over the country. The goal of the founders was to give away 2,000 to 3,000 meals per day; 8.5 million were distributed in the first winter alone. In 2018, 130 million meals were served.
     
    Last edited: Apr 23, 2019
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  19. MAGAorMIGA

    MAGAorMIGA Lead commenter

    We need Jane Horrocks, in Mrs Pritchard guise, here in the UK.
     
  20. oldsomeman

    oldsomeman Star commenter

    Despite his intelligence I cannot stand Russell Brand.The idea of him as leader of a party upsets me more than the idea of Gove and the comedian for the toried or Corbyn for Labour!
     

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