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UK workers must move to nine-hour week if carbon levels do not change, says thinktank

Discussion in 'Personal' started by FrankWolley, May 22, 2019.

  1. FrankWolley

    FrankWolley Star commenter

    Not quite sure how this will work for emergency services, the NHS, schools, transport, hospitality etc. -

    Much shorter working weeks needed to tackle climate crisis – study

    https://www.theguardian.com/environ...-hours-could-help-tackle-climate-crisis-study

    People across Europe will need to work drastically fewer hours to avoid disastrous climate heating unless there is a radical decarbonising of the economy, according to a study.

    The research, from thinktank Autonomy, shows workers in the UK would need to move to nine-hour weeks to keep the country on track to avoid more than 2C of heating at current carbon intensity levels. Similar reductions were found to be necessary in Sweden and Germany.

    The findings are based on OECD and UN data on greenhouse gas emissions per industry in the three countries. It found that at current carbon levels, all three would require a drastic reduction in working hours as well as urgent measures to decarbonise the economy to prevent climate breakdown.

    Will Stronge, the director of Autonomy, said the research highlighted the need to include reductions in working hours as part of the efforts to address the climate emergency.

    “Becoming a green, sustainable society will require a number of strategies – a shorter working week being just one of them,” he said. “This paper and the other nascent research in the field should give us plenty of food for thought when we consider how urgent a Green New Deal is and what it should look like”
     
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  2. peakster

    peakster Star commenter

    That would be nice
     
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  3. peakster

    peakster Star commenter

    Don't MP's already work a 9 hour week
     
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  4. CheeseMongler

    CheeseMongler Lead commenter

    Yep, like some SLT.
     
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  5. racroesus

    racroesus Star commenter

    Mass unemployment would give the necessary average working week.
     
  6. Aquamarina1234

    Aquamarina1234 Star commenter

    It'll be like the three-day week of the 70s - pro rata pay. I'd be bringing home 6.38 a week.
     
  7. FrankWolley

    FrankWolley Star commenter

    Presumably if everyone worked 9 hours per week, salaries would drop by 75%...:confused: Lots of mortgages would be defaulted, I guess...
     
  8. CheeseMongler

    CheeseMongler Lead commenter

    ...but the banking staff wouldn't have the hours to sort out the paperwork for repossession, the posties wouldn't have the hours to deliver you notice and the bailiffs wouldn't have the hours to evict you... it'd all be fine!!
     
  9. needabreak

    needabreak Star commenter

    Unlike the Chinese who are subject to industry pressure to work 996. It's a strange world it really is, I'm convinced we are all just literally making it up as we go along... little in the way of holistic rhyme or reason as we wing it and use media to broadcast our 'new' often questionable often unsubstantiated unsustainable ideas.
     
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  10. needabreak

    needabreak Star commenter

    Of course it could just be an excuse for us in the west to sit in our a r s e s while we "consume" what the rest of the world works hard to produce.

    Tied in with universal income and simply printing more money one could be led or misled into thinking it's paradise... personally it sounds more like pergatory at best delusional at worst.

    Edit
     
  11. racroesus

    racroesus Star commenter

    Nah; rational self-interest rules.
     
  12. needabreak

    needabreak Star commenter

    So we have swapped ideologies, how odd, or convenient.
     
  13. Mangleworzle

    Mangleworzle Star commenter

    I'm not sure how this 9 hour working is supposed to reduce carbon emissions, is it just by not doing so much and getting poorer?
     
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  14. needabreak

    needabreak Star commenter

    Possibly. Question is whether poverty is your/our preference. Fewer jobs, possibly low UI, fewer working hours, less spending, less demand, fewer jobs... Sounds like a recession, or a recipe for one.

    Looking at recent job losses announced its possible that poverty is the preference and it might be hitting people who didn't see it coming or realise their vote or other choices may be in some small part responsible... clearly we are our own worse enemy.
     
  15. racroesus

    racroesus Star commenter

    I may have been ironic but I'm not sure what that means.
     
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  16. racroesus

    racroesus Star commenter

    When not working the masses will be kept in barracks insulated to very high standards and with little room to move so reducing food inputs and preventing heat from escaping. Barracks will be on the same site as employing businesses to reduce travel.
     
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  17. racroesus

    racroesus Star commenter

    Rational self-interest, AI; that is all ye will know on Earth and all ye will need to know.
     
  18. needabreak

    needabreak Star commenter

    I wouldn't be too scared we are a way off true AI... Fakery is all about us Alexa maybe there but she is not scheming ways to manipulate you but her creators or those they sell the information to might be and they are still very much human.
     
  19. racroesus

    racroesus Star commenter

    It's about the bots that do the things people are presently paid to do from sweeping streets to burning away brain tumours. True AI will be able to learn and make decisions: that might be learning the difference between sick and chewing gum and deciding which cleaning method is more suitable. I'm not describing dystopias.
     
  20. racroesus

    racroesus Star commenter

    The problem is in the rational self-interest which isn't really any different from 'gut reaction'.
     

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