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UK riots

Discussion in 'Personal' started by DrLinus, Jun 7, 2020.

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  1. DrLinus

    DrLinus Lead commenter

    While everyone was watching London, the protesters descended on Bristol.

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    The British police need to stop wringing their hands and bending their knees and put a stop to this civil unrest immediately before it spreads.
     
  2. newposter

    newposter Occasional commenter

    Wonder what the leftie fascists would do to piles of books they didn't agree with.
     
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  3. DrLinus

    DrLinus Lead commenter

    Howling savages.

     
  4. Scintillant

    Scintillant Star commenter

    Adidas Gazelles

    Nice.

    [​IMG]
     
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  5. Dodros

    Dodros Star commenter

  6. lexus300

    lexus300 Star commenter

    They are witless ******.
     
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  7. DrLinus

    DrLinus Lead commenter

    Yes.
    The statue has been dumped into the harbour.
     
  8. racroesus

    racroesus Star commenter

    Sorry for the length.


    In fact, according to an article first published on the Internet in 2008 and endlessly recirculated since, Irish slaves were not only common in early America, they were more common than African slaves, and often treated more harshly. The article making these claims is usually credited to an individual named John Martin, who, in turn, found most of his “facts” in a 2003 article by James F. Cavanaugh called “Irish Slaves in the Caribbean.” It has gone by many names, but as of mid-2016, the most shared version of the Irish slave narrative was entitled “Irish: The Forgotten White Slaves,” and posted under the byline of a man named Ronald Dwyer.

    Regardless of who is or isn’t credited with writing it, nearly every iteration of the piece begins in exactly the same way:

    They came as slaves: human cargo transported on British ships bound for the Americas. They were shipped by the hundreds of thousands and included men, women, and even the youngest of children.

    Whenever they rebelled or even disobeyed an order, they were punished in the harshest ways. Slave owners would hang their human property by their hands and set their hands or feet on fire as one form of punishment. Some were burned alive and had their heads placed on pikes in the marketplace as a warning to other captives.

    We don’t really need to go through all of the gory details, do we? We know all too well the atrocities of the African slave trade.

    But are we talking about African slavery? King James VI and Charles I also led a continued effort to enslave the Irish. Britain’s Oliver Cromwell furthered this practice of dehumanizing one’s next door neighbor.

    The Irish slave trade began when James VI sold 30,000 Irish prisoners as slaves to the New World. His Proclamation of 1625 required Irish political prisoners be sent overseas and sold to English settlers in the West Indies.

    By the mid 1600s, the Irish were the main slaves sold to Antigua and Montserrat. At that time, 70% of the total population of Montserrat were Irish slaves.

    Ireland quickly became the biggest source of human livestock for English merchants. The majority of the early slaves to the New World were actually white.
     
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  9. lanokia

    lanokia Star commenter

    So we remove any trace of the slave trade historically from the UK...

    ... and then we're going to wonder why no-one knows anything about the slave trade in 30 years time...

    That statue should have been moved to a museum and been part of a display discussing the impact of slavery on Bristol and comparing his philanthropic local work with his role in the trade... but why would Bristol Council do something educational like that...

    Nelson's Column next? The Churchill statue? It's surrounded by a mob right now... ah the irony, modern anti-fascists attacking the statue of the greatest ever actual anti-fascist...
     
  10. DrLinus

    DrLinus Lead commenter

    Were you aiming for a different thread?
     
  11. lanokia

    lanokia Star commenter

    It's odd... globally 40 million are slaves... profits from illegal slavery stand at £110 billion plus... 70% of modern slaves are women and girls...

    Not a peep... not a protest, no riots... no demonstrations... myself included.
     
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  12. Oscillatingass

    Oscillatingass Star commenter

    Were the police actually present? This is a deliberate act of vandalism surely to God something could have been done to prevent it. What happens next? "Yeah we burned a few houses down but its ok they were owned by people we didn't like".
     
  13. Scintillant

    Scintillant Star commenter

    Not happened.
    Won't happen

    Lol.
     
  14. Scintillant

    Scintillant Star commenter

    You wouldn't want to be in the wrong place when that comes down.
     
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  15. colacao17

    colacao17 Senior commenter

    Now you're being willfully silly.

    The idea is not to remove all trace of it, merely to ensure that it is seen for what it was, in all its horror, rather than glorifying those who profited from it.

    So why wasn't it? Why are there still so many momuments to slave traders in the UK?

    If these issues had been properly confronted already, there'd be no statues to pull down.

    For anyone interested, David Olusoga's excellent 2-part documentaryon Britian's slave trade is still out there. Originally broadcast in 2015 on BBC 3 or 4, after midnight, so possibly you missed it.


    Does that go for the Colston statue as well? Did having that statue there really mean people really know who Colston was -before this week at least? Is there really an awareness of who were the slave traders, which of Britian's wealthy and elite got to where they are off the back of slaves?

    Then again maybe there was a plaque on that statue that made clear the horror and brutality that lay behind Colston's success.
     
    Last edited: Jun 7, 2020
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  16. lanokia

    lanokia Star commenter

    So why bother replying to me?

    You seem unable to discuss things maturely... come back when you've got that sorted out.
     
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  17. alex_teccy

    alex_teccy Star commenter

    I think you’ll find of we dump a few more statues of old white men and ban some more books the problem will go away.
     
  18. lanokia

    lanokia Star commenter

    God, hate to show them the other guy...
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  19. Oscillatingass

    Oscillatingass Star commenter

    Absolute lackwits.
     
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  20. LondonCanary

    LondonCanary Star commenter

    Anyone living in Bristol is racist adjacent. People should move away avoid complicity,
     
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