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TV volume limiter?

Discussion in 'Personal' started by tolkien28, Feb 22, 2020.

  1. tolkien28

    tolkien28 Occasional commenter

    Is there such a thing as a limiter for TV volume on modern televisions? I ask because I'm living next to an elderly lady aged 90 whose TV frequently is loud enough to travel through our party wall and due to the acoustics of the house travels upstairs into my bedroom too. It's been an ongoing problem since I moved in last April and despite attempts by visitors to turn it down it soon goes up again once they leave. I've just given up now. I did ask her son if he could limit the volume on her remote but he said not possible. Her TV is just a year old, mine is ancient so I wouldn't know if modern TVs come with a sub menu to limit volume. Any ideas?
  2. Jude Fawley

    Jude Fawley Star commenter

    At ninety your neighbour is probably having trouble hearing. My neighbour is much younger but likes to shout at the television. I don't hear the television but he shouts all Saturday night. Game shows, Dancing On Ice, football, he shouts at the television. Most people aren't very bright and make no allowance for their neighbours. Elderly people aren't very good at getting hearing aids sorted out.

    My mother's hearing is deteriorating and can't hear me on the phone. She asks me to shout but I'm not prepared to disturb my neighbours so I've told her not to phone until she has her hearing aid. This is interesting because my brothers aren't very bright and I'm too sorted to help her. I can't enter their chaos. She did start the process of having her hearing tested after I intervened but she didn't follow it up. She needs a full-time social worker. I can't help her because I'm operating on a totally different level and she will cut across any help I put in place. I must have tried ten times on that issue alone but she can't be helped. She is desirous of difficulty.

    This is how it is with a great many people.
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  3. Jamvic

    Jamvic Star commenter

    If the volume is up that loud your neighbour probably can’t hear it if it’s turned any lower so limiting the volume may make it impossible for her to hear her programmes.

    She needs either a hearing aid to amplify the sound so that the volume can be lower but she can hear it with the aid.

    Or wireless headphones would mean she could have it as loud as she wanted but you wouldn’t hear a thing. I have a hearing impaired elderly relative who uses a pair of these to watch tv so that he can have it on full volume.

    If you’re on chatting terms with her or her son perhaps you could suggest these solutions.
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  4. tolkien28

    tolkien28 Occasional commenter

    Thank you Jude for your thoughts. Yes I'm sure hearing loss is an issue, but there are times when the volume is low. Unfortunately the TV is against my wall and I think a lot of volume is coming through to me.
  5. tolkien28

    tolkien28 Occasional commenter

    Thanks for your thoughts. On speaking terms, but he's usually dismissive if I mention it with a comment along the lines of "it is what it is" so I'm not confident to suggest either of your suggestions as she's lived there since 1962 and does what she wants.
  6. Duke of York

    Duke of York Star commenter

    The issue is almost certainly one where her hearing aid isn't working as it should and is easily resolved. The poor old dear has no idea it's causing you a problem and would most likely be horrified if she knew it was. Her hearing most likely has a low battery or is clogged up with ear wax. Either will be sorted out for her for free by the NHS.

    Just try to imagine you wake up yourself one day and can't hear the telly. You'll turn the volume up until you can, but if you're reliant on a hearing aid, you won't necessarily think it must be down to your hearing aid and because turning the TV volume up helps, it seems logical that someone had turned it down.

    Just be kind to her and help her get your mutual problem sorted. Depending where you live, the NHS audiology dept might send a technician to her house to sort her hearing aid out. Other health authorities might ask you to bring her in to the Audiology dept. It takes them ten minutes to resolve, nine of which are spent trying to communicate succesfully.

    The thing to get your head round, is that hearing aid batteries need regular replacement and she'll be used to that, but the ear wax thing isn't something she can easily resolve herself or comprehend. If you want to give her a real treat, tell her when you take her to the hospital, that you've heard they're doing a remake of Star Wars and might be auditioning for someone to play the part of Deaf Ada in the audiologogy dept of your local hospital.
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  7. sbkrobson

    sbkrobson Star commenter

    The issue here is not what can be done to reduce the volume, but the fact that it is originating from somebody's private realm.
    You need to assume there is nothing you can do to change their behaviour, because often their isn't. Too often it ends in frustration, ill feeling, lack of consideration and compounded resentment. Additionally, if the sound is getting through, it is quite possible that even if you did get her to reduce the volume, you'd still hear it.

    I really feel your pain-I lived three years with excessive and distressing noise intrusion simply due to the make up of the building I lived in, which seriously cut into my well being, and in the end I moved because of it. However, I did make a significant difference with these things-
    put a rug on the wall-yes!
    put down rugs on the floor
    moved the bed from the wall
    moved cupboards and other amplifying furnishings away from the partition wall.

    Basically the more upholstered or textiled surfaces in the room, the more you will create your own sort of soundproofing. You need to experiment with the physics of it, but rugs and moving things around make a huge difference, really.
    (An extra magical piece of soundproofing technology is flattened cardboard boxes underneath rugs.)
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  8. Lalad

    Lalad Star commenter

    Could you offer to show her how to use subtitles?
    My mother was very hard of hearing but once I'd shown her the subtitle button, she just used that and had the volume on very low, if at all.
  9. HelenREMfan

    HelenREMfan Star commenter

    That was just what I was going to suggest @Lalad. MrREMfan has hearing issues and we always have to have subtitles on. It helps some programmes too when the actors insist on mumbling.
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  10. Duke of York

    Duke of York Star commenter

    Yes that's one solution, so long has good eyesight, but try to imagine how it impacts on a couple where the subtitles are intrusive for the partner whose hearing is fine and the arguments it causes.

    The best advice I can give is to sort out the problem, if you can, before looking for ways to compensate for it.
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  11. hhhh

    hhhh Star commenter

    Equally there are many young people with hearing issues, and TV limiters would affect their ability to watch TV. Decent hearing aids are not available on the NHS in some areas. Few people care, until it affects them, just as there are many who complain about 'wheel-chairs getting in the way', or guide dogs/ assistance dogs being o public transport. It might be worth offering to help the lady with her hearing aids, if decent help is offered in your area-there's lots of technology out there for hearing needs, but it might be that she is not able to access this help-it could be doing yourself a favour to offer to help her in this way.
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  12. Jude Fawley

    Jude Fawley Star commenter

    Whatever your need you get down to the doctor's surgery and make your case and don't give up. That's what we pay national insurance for. In this life you've got to be assertive and crack on. It sounds like the neighbour's children aren't planning ahead and like most people they are just letting life happen to their parent and themselves.

    Clarity is the key. It irritates me no end the way many people are so error driven and just ricochet from problem to problem ever deepening their difficulties. We live in an age of wonderful technology that can ease our comfort and prolong our lives. Even so, I'm convinced the majority just wallow in apathy without any plan.

    If I was mean I'd just consider the benefits of being sorted and ahead of the competition, but I want everyone to benefit and, as importantly, to be held accountable and work for the common good in matters of health and wellbeing.

    More fool I when one considers the heel-dragging majority. I can only conclude that people are genuinely desirous of a difficult life and are so depressed they can't even see how they impede the progress of their neighbours.

    Stupid species!
  13. sbkrobson

    sbkrobson Star commenter

    OP has already intimated that there is resistance to discussing the matter, via the son. So I'm not sure why people are suggesting that they somehow try to convince somebody to wear the discomfort of hearing aids in the comfort of their own home at a time when they are relaxing, when this is simply somebody who is living their own life in their own private realm and with closest family clearly protecting them from any sort of neighbourly involvement, possibly for very important reasons.
    It's incredibly easy in a situation like this to inadvertently breed ill feeling when it fact it is yourself who is being subjected to a nuisance; amateur and inventive soundproofing can help by putting you in control of the noise reduction.
    I found this online, a basic descriptor of things you can try, hopefully some apply to OP

    There are also lots of Youtubes on more bespoke forms of soundproofing using specialist stuff. You can do lots o it yourself.

    As an afterthought, you cannot actually know how loud the TV is. it is feasibly quite quiet in the actual room of this neighbour, not unheard of for adjacent rooms to act as amplifiers to sound that is not sourced within them. A good example of this is when running upstairs it might not be that loud to yourself, but those sitting in a room below might perceive some very loud thudding.

    My point is, for a number of reasons it's a problem to be dealt with indoors by OP, not necessarily by changing anything she is doing.
    Last edited: Feb 23, 2020
  14. Morninglover

    Morninglover Star commenter

  15. Jamvic

    Jamvic Star commenter

    Modern hearing aids are not particularly uncomfortable and can vastly improve the lives of very elderly people. At 90 the TV is probably an important device for this lady as perhaps her sole source of entertainment. Being able to hear the dialogue clearly would enhance her viewing experience.

    I disagree. 1) There are levels of ‘neighbour’ noise that, if constant, become unacceptable and antisocial. 2) This lady, at her advanced age, deserves to enjoy her TV comfortably and there is simple, relatively cheap technology to help her achieve this. No one would suggest she did without glasses, a walking frame or a bath rail if she needed them to make life more comfortable and manageable. Her son should be sorting this out for her.
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  16. Pageant

    Pageant Occasional commenter

    My sister has the same problem except the old lady next door gets up at 5.00am every morning and puts the TV on .......................
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  17. aypi

    aypi Senior commenter

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  18. mothorchid

    mothorchid Star commenter

    Depending on what your relationship with her is like, is there any hope that you might be allowed to help her rearrange the room slightly so her TV wasn't up against the party wall?
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  19. Mangleworzle

    Mangleworzle Star commenter

    Have you spoken to her directly about it? She may not care and be cantankerous about it as some elderly people can be about certain issues, or she may see it as something her visitors are imagining or fussing about unnecessarily.

    If you go round directly and ask (politely of course) at least you'll know if it a case of not aware or doesn't care. Being 90 is no excuse for being anti-social, you can then work through the other possibilities. Sub-titles are a good possibility if she can read them, we sometimes turn the tv up if there are mumblers which makes it too loud some of the time, the alternative is to miss part of what's going on which spoils the whole programme. Moving the tv will probably help too, though if she's been there since 1962 she's probably not going to be keen on that now.
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  20. tolkien28

    tolkien28 Occasional commenter

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