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Tulip Siddiq

Discussion in 'Personal' started by MAGAorMIGA, Jan 14, 2019.


    MAGAorMIGA Star commenter

    Amazing! Labour MP Tulip Siddiq has delayed having a C-Section in order to vote on Brexit, because she doesn't trust the Tories not to renege on any pairing agreement. There's loads of issues here - the anti-woman nature of Parliament; the sheer dastardliness of the Conservatives; the importance of the Brexit vote. Take your pick!
    ilovesooty and monicabilongame like this.

    MAGAorMIGA Star commenter

  3. florian gassmann

    florian gassmann Star commenter

    Do you remember what it was like in the 1970s, particularly under the Callaghan government? MPs with broken legs wheeled in from their hospital beds and the like, in order to vote.
  4. FrankWolley

    FrankWolley Star commenter

    Why on earth MPs can't vote online and so get rid of pairing and nonsense like this I don't know...
    florian gassmann and InkyP like this.
  5. nomad

    nomad Star commenter

    I would certainly agree the sheer dastardliness of Conservative Party chairman Brandon Lewis broke a pairing arrangement with Liberal Democrat Deputy Leader Jo Swinson in July 2018.
    emerald52 likes this.
  6. colpee

    colpee Star commenter

    There are lots of oddities about Parliamentarty voting. MPs have even been carried in to vote. I like this story though:

    As speaker, Bernard Weatherill played a critical role in the defeat of the Callaghan government in the vote of confidence. As the vote loomed, Labour's deputy Chief Whip, Walter Harrison approached Weatherill to enforce the pairing convention that if a sick MP from the Government could not vote, an MP from the Opposition would abstain to compensate. Weatherill said that pairing had never been intended for votes on Matters of Confidence that meant the life or death of the Government and it would be impossible to find a Conservative MP who would agree to abstain. However, after a moment's reflection, he offered that he himself would abstain, because he felt it would be dishonourable to break his word with Harrison. Harrison was so impressed by Weatherill's offer – which would have effectively ended his political career – that he released Weatherill from his obligation and so the Government fell by one vote on the agreement of gentlemen.
    MAGAorMIGA and nomad like this.
  7. Aquamarina1234

    Aquamarina1234 Star commenter

    That is a piece of s.. t judgment.
  8. Duke of York

    Duke of York Star commenter

    Do MPs get to decide who they pair with? Has any of them ever said "There's no way I'm going to pair with that creep!"

    ROSIEGIRL Lead commenter

    Harriet Harman has asked for a proxy vote, rather than a pair, for Tulip Siddiq, which I assume will be less open to ... forgetfulness? The idea was agreed in principle last February.

    They'll have to move to get it organised in time.
  10. MAGAorMIGA

    MAGAorMIGA Star commenter

    I presume it would take a Private Members' Bill, and the dastard Christopher Chope would shout "Object!" to ensure it doesn't pass.
  11. ilovesooty

    ilovesooty Star commenter

    If he didn't, Philip Davies would kill it off.
  12. ScienceGuy

    ScienceGuy Established commenter

    To be fair to the Conservatives, whilst this was the incident that made the news, when broken pairing was investigated the figures indicated that the vast majority of pairing arrangements were broken by Labour and particularly the Lib. Dems.
    nomad likes this.
  13. racroesus

    racroesus Star commenter

    Was she told that she should have the operation on Monday or Tuesday or that she should have a C-section and Monday or Tuesday were suitable?
  14. emerald52

    emerald52 Star commenter

    She was told that she has an at risk pregnancy and should have a Caesarian today. The doctor has agreed to delay it so she can vote.
  15. blazer

    blazer Star commenter

    Why is she even at work?

    ROSIEGIRL Lead commenter

    I don't think she is 'physically' at work, though she will be tonight if something sensible isn't sorted out soon.

    Pretty much sums up the antiquated and male dominated system our Parliament operates under.

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