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Trots

Discussion in 'Book club' started by scarlettheimposter, Mar 19, 2012.

  1. scarlettheimposter

    scarlettheimposter New commenter

    The slightly tongue-in-cheek intro to this book reads:
    "A spectre would seem to be haunting the British government. People have
    the cheek to object to being paid nothing to work for Tescos – they are
    all “Trots”. Teachers and parents object to school privatisation. They
    are all “Trots” too. And as for Andrew Lansley's NHS privatisation – the
    “Trots” would seem to include all the professional bodies representing
    health professionals, patients groups and the trade unions inside and
    outside the Health Service.

    Whoever these “Trots” are they do seem remarkably powerful. How come
    nobody has ever heard of them?

    If you want to know what “Trots” believe then this little book


    [​IMG]



    will tell you.
    It is based on an historical public domain document
    drafted by Trotsky in 1938 yet when you read through it there are
    surprising echoes of the present day.



    “Mankind's productive forces stagnate. Already new inventions and
    improvements fail to raise the level of material wealth. Conjunctural
    crises under the conditions of the social crisis of the whole capitalist
    system inflict ever-heavier deprivations and sufferings upon the
    general population . Growing unemployment, in its turn, deepens the
    financial crisis of the state and undermines the unstable monetary
    systems. Democratic regimes, as well as fascist, stagger on from one
    bankruptcy to another.”





    If we take it as read there are no Fascist regimes nowadays – just an
    overweight BNP clown in the European parliament sitting on his expenses –
    the rest of this is very familiar. The people of Greece are expected to
    put up with cuts in wages and pensions while the bankers live the life
    of Riley. Millions of the 99 percent feel indignation about this.


    And the transitional program has practical advice on how to turn this
    indignation into action and make the bosses pay for their crisis.

    It is on Kindle for an astonishing 77p Have a look and see what you think.
     
  2. scarlettheimposter

    scarlettheimposter New commenter

    The slightly tongue-in-cheek intro to this book reads:
    "A spectre would seem to be haunting the British government. People have
    the cheek to object to being paid nothing to work for Tescos – they are
    all “Trots”. Teachers and parents object to school privatisation. They
    are all “Trots” too. And as for Andrew Lansley's NHS privatisation – the
    “Trots” would seem to include all the professional bodies representing
    health professionals, patients groups and the trade unions inside and
    outside the Health Service.

    Whoever these “Trots” are they do seem remarkably powerful. How come
    nobody has ever heard of them?

    If you want to know what “Trots” believe then this little book


    [​IMG]



    will tell you.
    It is based on an historical public domain document
    drafted by Trotsky in 1938 yet when you read through it there are
    surprising echoes of the present day.



    “Mankind's productive forces stagnate. Already new inventions and
    improvements fail to raise the level of material wealth. Conjunctural
    crises under the conditions of the social crisis of the whole capitalist
    system inflict ever-heavier deprivations and sufferings upon the
    general population . Growing unemployment, in its turn, deepens the
    financial crisis of the state and undermines the unstable monetary
    systems. Democratic regimes, as well as fascist, stagger on from one
    bankruptcy to another.”





    If we take it as read there are no Fascist regimes nowadays – just an
    overweight BNP clown in the European parliament sitting on his expenses –
    the rest of this is very familiar. The people of Greece are expected to
    put up with cuts in wages and pensions while the bankers live the life
    of Riley. Millions of the 99 percent feel indignation about this.


    And the transitional program has practical advice on how to turn this
    indignation into action and make the bosses pay for their crisis.

    It is on Kindle for an astonishing 77p Have a look and see what you think.
     
  3. There you go using Kindle. Kindle is a wonderful invention of capitalism.


    The only time you socialists kindle books is when you are setting fire to them :)


    And dont be rude about that nice Mr Griffin - he's a family guy you know and bad things happen to the kneecaps of people who criticise him.
     
  4. Trotsky's prose style is a bit 1930s but if you are writing in 1938 you will get this!


    It is amusing that the government are calling the SWP Trots. I know as little about the SWP as possible but I know they have denounced Trotsky's ideas for about sixty years.


    The price is amazing though. A tatty old paper version of the transitional programme cost me five quid.


    However I am not sure cheap kindle versions of books disprove the idea that "Mankind's productive forces stagnate. Already new inventions and improvements fail to raise the level of material wealth." There is a tendency for the rate of profit to fall and new inventions are more likely to exacerbate the crisis than otherwise.
     
  5. "Trots oppose privatisation of schools" - but so do all the teaching unions.
    So do parents whose views are being ignored.
    Whereas Mr Gove seems to have a rather more - dare I say it - Stalinist attitude :)


    You can also read classroom teacher on your ipad, iphone or kindle

    http://www.classroomteacher.org.uk/

    including the one the TES seemed to take exception to!
     
  6. 1938 - they didn't have kindle then. You should go down on your knees and thank God for capitalism.

    I know the SWP aren't Trotskyists but government ministers cant expect to know anything....I mean everything


     
  7. scarlettheimposter

    scarlettheimposter New commenter

    In any case it is possibly Gove is calling everyone who opposes him "Trots" because it creates an atmosphere of fear. <P></P>
    Governments thrive on fear.

    http://www.amazon.co.uk/The-death-agony-capitalism-ebook/dp/B007L5LGC8/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1335392689&sr=8-3
     

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