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Trevor Phillips attacks political correctness for failing to tackle Muslim child sex gangs

Discussion in 'Personal' started by delmamerchant, Aug 11, 2017.

  1. Oscillatingass

    Oscillatingass Star commenter

    Well of course back in the day we used to send small children up chimneys and imprison gay people. Our society has moved on since those times but it seems there are certain groups of men who have attitudes to young girls that have absolutely no place in modern British Society. We are not talking about the occasional wierdo but organised gangs. It is absolutely sickening.
     
  2. Orkrider2

    Orkrider2 Star commenter


    Possibly this may account for it, or the fact that they're less likely to prey on girls that they know from within their own community whose parents, brothers, uncles they may also know. Much easier to pick up girls at the takeaway shop etc.
    But I do think that race has been dragged into it because it makes good copy. There were 8 white men convicted of child grooming in Derby around the same time as Rochdale. They followed similar practices, plying girls with drink and drugs, preying on vulnerable kids in care. But it was largely ignored by the press. White middle aged men raping girls as young as 13 just doesn't raise the same kind of moral panic as claiming that white girls are only really at risk from Asian predators, implying that these men are naturally predisposed to be sex offenders due to cultural or religious reasons and specifically target white girls due to their inherent racism.


    This is from the conclusion to research into the way the MSM deals with grooming and sexual exploitation cases (bold mine):

    "All of the newspaper articles explored in this study underscored that the victims in the recent high‐profile cases of street grooming were white, while the majority of the perpetrators were of South Asian origin or descent. South Asian street grooming gang s received disproportionate coverage at the expense of other, similar cases involving mostly white perpetrators and/or ethnic minority victims. Skewed media reporting fuelled a moral panic linking ethnicity and
    child sexual exploitation. Over‐reporting cases of South Asian men as perpetrators of grooming and sexual exploitation of white girls overlooks broader statistics and socioeconomic factors such as poverty and neglect, which often lie at the root of sexual exploitation. Research by the Child Exploitation and Online Protection Centre (2011) about children who were groomed and sexually exploited by an offender they first met in a public place identified 1,217 offenders: 30 per cent were white, while 28 per cent were Asian (11 were Bangladeshi, 45 were Pakistani and 290 were described as ‘Asian Other’). Of their 2083 victims, 61 per cent were white, while just 3 per cent were Asian and 33 per cent were referred to as ‘other’. The report stressed that national conclusions about ethnicity cannot be drawn from the data, because much of the data came from a limited number of geographic areas (Cockbain and Brayley 2012). When the Office of the Children’s Commissioner published Inquiry into Child Sexual Exploitation in Gangs and Groups the following year, it found that the vast majority of perpetrators were men, though a wide age‐range was uncovered: some offenders were as young as fourteen, while others were elderly.
    Critically, perpetrators and their victims were ethnically diverse. While some women’s groups in the UK have suggested that concern over South Asian sex offenders constitutes a ‘good’ moral panic, raising awareness to protect girls from abuse, many also recognise that it distorts public perception of the prevalence of the problem across British society. More needs to be done to combat the full scope of child sexual exploitation and grooming cases, accounting for all potential perpetrators and victims. Raising moral outrage over this issue is a matter of priority, but should be achieved without recourse to racial stereotyping, helpful to no one lest future victims."
    From here: https://www.crimejusticejournal.com/article/view/214/185
     
  3. harsh-but-fair

    harsh-but-fair Star commenter

  4. Didactylos4

    Didactylos4 Star commenter

    It is and clearly just as sickening across all of the different communities where such things have happened.
    There was a small, badly-attended protest near to me from the usual far-right loons this morning who, as is usual, loudly claimed that the Newcastle cases were "another example of the police being too PC to prosecute"
    Clearly from the rhetoric being shouted through a cheap and rather quiet loud-hailer not only they were they not particularly gifted in public speaking but they can't use logic or even add up.
    As a previous poster kindly showed in a link, the regional police have over the last three years in two separate operations secured around 400 convictions which resulted in sentences totalling some 300 years.....

    And, as is typical of the area now, the heckling of these particular protesters was vehement, accurate and came from people of all ages. The vast majority of them were white as well. The protest dissolved after less than 30 minutes.

    There are times when, in spite of the crimes of the disgusting few I'm rather proud of the majority of my fellow humans :cool:
     
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  5. Orkrider2

    Orkrider2 Star commenter

  6. Laphroig

    Laphroig Lead commenter

    I agree that these are crimes based on opportunity but what on earth leads someone into exploiting these opportunities? Anyone from any background.
     
  7. harsh-but-fair

    harsh-but-fair Star commenter

  8. grumpydogwoman

    grumpydogwoman Star commenter

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  9. grumpydogwoman

    grumpydogwoman Star commenter

    I asked him if he sees any contradiction between his socialist ideals and his decision to enter the digital equivalent of the world’s oldest profession. He didn’t quite get it. I pointed out that, as a webcam studio owner, he owned the means of production and that the models were the oppressed workers. He thought about it for a minute, before explaining that, no, that doesn’t apply at all. You see, "We’re not managers, because the models aren’t employees," he explained. "They pay us part of their earnings in return for us providing the facilities. We're facilitators."

    As we stood outside the supermarket finishing our cigarettes, a girl walked past and my lesson moved from mathematics to aesthetics: "This girl, her face – she can make money. I look at their faces and I see money."


    The words of one of the Romanian sex-cam pimps. He says he's a socialist and he wants a better world. A fairer world. But he sees women as commodities and doesn't see anything wrong with what he's doing. o_O
     
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  10. secretsiren

    secretsiren Star commenter

    I read a deeply depressing article in The Times magazine recently about how women are treated in Afghanistan after the fall of the Taliban. Their position is still as bad as it ever was: child marriage, 80% of women experiencing domestic violence, lack of facilities for education, lack of chance in the workplace with females being threatened, beaten and even killed if they dare to work outside of the home...
    In many countries, it is still legal for men to escape punishment for raping a woman if they then marry them. Let's not forget that in this country, it was still legal for men to rape their wives until the 1990s. Taking photos of someone's crotch with an 'upskirt' photo is actually still perfectly legal, and the default position of people talking about revenge p*rn or nude photo hacking is to say 'well, you shouldn't have taken the photo' instead of 'the perpetrator should not be using the photo in that way'. In the USA, the President has recently supported legislation that would make domestic violence or rape a pre-existing medical condition so that women will be punished financially for life for an attack on their bodies.

    Appalling treatment of women is not limited to an ethnic group, race, religion or even gender - plenty of women are just as revolting in terms of controlling other women's behaviour, and plenty of women are involved in sex abuse cases. As long as women are seen as nothing but bodies for other people to control, these sorts of cases will happen and they will continue to not be limited to a particular group of people.
     
  11. grumpydogwoman

    grumpydogwoman Star commenter

  12. Oscillatingass

    Oscillatingass Star commenter

    Possibly you failed to notice that I deliberately avoided reference to race in my post.
     
  13. Duke of York

    Duke of York Star commenter

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b07krycn
    Stealing Innocence in Malawi


    Ed Butler explores the secretive and shocking world of Malawi's "hyenas". These are the men hired to sexually initiate or cleanse adolescent and pre-adolescent girls - some said to be 12 years old, or even younger. It's a traditional custom that is endorsed and funded by the communities themselves, even the children's families. We meet some of the victims, the regional chief campaigning to stop the practice, and the hyenas themselves, and ask if enough is being done to stamp out a custom that's not just damaging on a human scale, but is also undermining the country's economic development.

     
  14. Didactylos4

    Didactylos4 Star commenter

    Not at all. :confused:
    I was very pleased that you, amongst others, determined that race and/or creed were irrelevant.
     
  15. T34

    T34 Lead commenter

    I've no idea, but I do know that Trevor Phillips is a bit of a loose cannon within the liberal elite.
     
  16. 576

    576 Established commenter

    I always thought it was more to do with a woman not being able to bring any money into her household so once she reached puberty she was married and became her husband's (rather than her father's) responsibility.
     
  17. racroesus

    racroesus Star commenter

    But, given her age, consummation would have come later, I think.
     
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  18. lanokia

    lanokia Star commenter

    *reads thread, sees people posting about children from 700 years ago*

    So are people arguing that because some queen got married at age 6 in the 14th century that makes it OK now?

    Genuinely confused as hell about this thread. Bizarre....

    Interesting how this thread took off when the 3 others on Operation Sanctuary died quick deaths...
     
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  19. elledriver

    elledriver Lead commenter

    That seems to be a widely held opinion/justification/excuse for what is happening now.
     
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  20. Calpurnia99

    Calpurnia99 Star commenter

    Race, religion and culture are not the same thing but neither are they unconnected.
     
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