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Discussion in 'Personal' started by delmamerchant, Aug 11, 2017.
Is it important to state this as a fact or is Phillips wrong?
Another angle here.
I have no strong views either way provided they are all put away for a long time.
In what way are these gangs Muslim? Are they organised by Mosques? Did they pray together before carrying out the abuse? Did they claim Allah told them to do it? Or do you mean that the people involved are nominal Muslims? Because I think we can all find plenty of criminals who are nominal members of any given religion.
This is always the problem with the idea of a racially aggravated crime. Proving the extra layer on top of the original crime.
That their religion may have had a part to play in the underlying attitudes that resulted in their behaviour is one thing but they are still solely responsible for their actions and therefore their crimes.
I think that it MUST be a Muslim thing.
I had no idea child abuse was part of the muslim religion,
Or any religion.
There's a big difference between attending a mosque and being a Muslim.
Loads of people go to places of worship to appear to be keeping the traditions.
It is a fact that a certain person had a wife/concubine who was 14 years old.
The thing the majority of these child sex offenders have is common is that they work in the night-time economy.
I knew that would would be posted
That is true. Mini cab drivers have often been involved in this type of thing. Not all obviously before anyone leaps to the defence of mini cab drivers.
Not a male thing though?
Yes, that's certainly one way of referring to him, without incurring the wrath of the believers.
I went to a Catholic school in the 1960s and we were told in RE lessons that the Virgin Mary was reputed to have been around 14 years old as that was the age for marrying and having children in those days. Life expectancy being so low, they apparently started families very young in order to ensure that they could see most of their children into their teen years.
I came back to add a serious comment, thinking I had perhaps been a little flippant in the face of such subject matter.
I don't think I'll bother now.
Eleanor of Castile born 1241 married to Edward l 1254 (so aged 14 at wedding). Died in Lincoln 1290. A cross was put up at each place her coffin rested on returning to London and after which Charing Cross is named (Chere Rein Croix).
Youngest queen, Mary ll married William lll at 15yrs and 188 days in 1677.
Youngest queen consort Isabella of Valois Richard ll at 6yrs and 358days old in 1396.
We preach against child-marriage abroad. But thousands of American children are wed annually.
Do carry on though...
Fascinating stuff, but not really relevant to the situation in this country. But some people find it difficult to face the facts, so let's deflect the topic by descending into University Challenge territory.