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Training to Teach Psychology

Discussion in 'Social sciences' started by katy222, Sep 2, 2008.

  1. Hi

    I know everyone is probably extremely busy getting ready for the start of term, but I'd be really grateful if you could just help me out.

    I'm currently browsing my options for training to become a psychology teacher, but unfortunately the advice lines and admissions officers aren't particuarly helpful. What I would like to know is how you psychology teachers reading this trained and what type of training (eg., PGCE vs. GTP) you would recommend? Also, what establishments around England would you recommend as the best?

    I have a psychology degree and have been working as a TA in order to get more school experience but for some reason, finding out all of this information has proven to be very difficult!

    Thanks, and good luck for start of term!

    Katy
     
  2. First question to ask is:

    1. Where do you want to work?

    If in FE, do a PGCE post-compulsory, as this will allow you to teach this in a college to anyone over 14 but won't give you QTS, so won't qualify you to work in a school 6th form (you would be employed there as an unqualified instructor for no longer than a year because without QTS, you're not legally allowed to teach in a school on a permanent basis).

    2. Do you want to do a postgraduate course on a full-time basis or would you rather learn on the job?

    Again, if you're happy to stick to teaching in FE and want to do full-time, do a full time post-compulsory PGCE. If you want to work in a school, you can do a PGCE in either Psychology or social sciences (this could cover you for related subjects, such as sociology). If you've already been teaching for a while or are about to get a job as psych teacher, do a part-time PGCE (a requirement for this course is that you're already teaching for 120 hours over the year) or GTP. The GTP is just that, a QTS teaching qualification for graduates. Personally, I think the full-time PGCE would be better for you if you haven't taught before and haven't got a teaching job yet, as it will be less intense. If you're working in a good school which will support you or would rather learn on the job (because you need the dosh), do the GTP.

    Have you looked on the TDA for this? I found it very useful when I looked into doing the PGCE (post-compulsory). In particular, the e-mail advisory service was helpful.

    A good establishment if you live in the South East is the Institute of Education. Other unis I've heard of are Warwick, Keele and Edgehill.

    I'm sure that there are others that others will mention on here.

    Hope this helps!

    Good luck!


     
  3. There is a PGCE Psychology for secondary now that gives you QTS. Canterbury, Edghill and somewhere else does it.
     
  4. Unfortunately I want to work in a school so the Post-Compulsory PGCE isn't an option for me. I've been looking into PGCE Psychology and PGCE Social Sciences and I would prefer the latter but all the course descriptions I have looked into have asked for an ability to teach history, sociology, RE or another humanity subject. My A-Levels are Psychology, English Lit, Biology and Theatre Studies so I don't think I would qualify for this. A full time course taught course or GTP would definitely be my preference though.

    And yes, I have been on the TDA and I've even been onto their advice line a few times but they were never able to give me advice on Psychology as it is post-16 and each time they just advised me to teach science instead!
     
  5. Hi Katy



    PGCE Psychology would be ideal for you. There are 5 providers across England and you can find them by doing a course search on the GTTR website.

    I am the PGCE Psychology course leader at Edge Hill University and some of my best trainees this year have worked as a TA like yourself. Do find out more about our course at www.edgehill.ac.uk



    Julie Bostock
     
  6. charleypants

    charleypants New commenter

    Hi Katy

    I don't know where you live or if you're in a position to move away to train, but if you would prefer to do a Social Science PGCE then Manchester Met runs one, and you wouldn't need to worry about your A-levels so much. This was where I did mine 2 years ago, and my A-levels are in Psychology, Eng Lit, Media Studies, Film Studies and IT! However, I taught Psych, PSHE, RE, Citizenship, and H+SC during my PGCE, and I now work in a secondary school teaching H+SC, Psych, RE and Business Studies (of all things...). I know these have tended to be over-subscribed, though with the Psych PGCEs this might not be so bad anymore, but I have heard good things about the Psych PGCE at Edgehill.
     
  7. I also went to Manchester Metropolitan University (MMU) to do my PGCE and it was an excellent course, The reason I chose the course was because the tutor ( Karen Duffy) is an experienced AQA examiner/ team leader ( the only course in the country who has a team leader for psychology as the tutor) and I was impressed by the fact that the course has been running for over 20 years and always gets a grade 1 in OFSTED. They have just got a new tutor ( course has expanded due to its popularity) who is a sociology and psychology examiner - Karen is always around to answer any queries, in fact I still send her all my queries even though I did the course 2 years ago!! You can email her at k.j.duffy@mmu.ac.uk- best to trust a course which has been established for a while in my opinion
     
  8. casquin

    casquin New commenter

    Hi Katy, I did my PGCE at MMU 7years ago, the support was second to none. The course has continued to attain a ONE across all areas from ofsted. Furthermore the course has expanded, and it now offers 3 PGCE's - Psychology, Social Science and the New Health, Society and Development diploma. However get your application in fast, I believe the course continues to attract 100's of applications.

    Good luck



    Casquin
     
  9. casquin

    casquin New commenter

    Hi Katy, I did my PGCE at MMU 7years ago, the support was second to none. The course has continued to attain a ONE across all areas from ofsted. Furthermore the course has expanded, and it now offers 3 PGCE's - Psychology, Social Science and the New Health, Society and Development diploma. However get your application in fast, I believe the course continues to attract 100's of applications.

    Good luck



    Casquin
     
  10. But not everyone can get on this course can they! Honestly, if these courses are so oversubscribed why the desperate advertising on TES forums?!!! I'm sure that new courses at institutions with excellent reputations will be very good. And does marking exam papers make you better at training teachers? Is teaching only about getting them through exams these days?
     
  11. I did the PGCE social sciences and citizenship course MMU and graduated July 08, I had a fab time.The support you receive is great and the teaching and learning is second to none, we also had a great laugh. I think the comment the previous person left makes them seems a bit bitter, not sure why though.



    I think students who have done these courses need to spread the information about this course as I am constantly met by people who would like to do a PGCE in social sciences and citizenship but dont seem to be able to find who does it, so by us telling people about it ensures that others get the information they need.



    I loved this course and it totally prepared me for teaching, I am sure the others are good, but this is the only one at the time I was looking that didnt require you to have an a-level in a humanities subject (may have changed now). One other good aspect about MMU is that it is masters accredited, which means when you graduate you come out with a 1/3 of a ma, and if you want to continue the ma part time at MMU, it is free for you to do so in your 2nd and 3rd years, great if you want to continue your studies!

    I hope this helps!



    Hannah

    xx
     
  12. Gosh, Hannah, thanks for the diagnosis! This is a place for exchange of views - no need for abuse.

    I think you'll find most PGCE programmes offer M level credits now, not just MMU.

    Hope this helps!
     
  13. I was not advertising the course for them, as far as I know they dont need any advertising they are that popular ( and popular and heavily oversubscribed for a reason) I was under the assumption this forum was to help people who were looking for advice and thats what I was doing- I agree with Hannah that this is the purpose of the forum- well said Hannah. Marking exam papers does not help you become a better teacher but it does give you a better insght into assessment skills that are transferable and thats one of the many skills I got when I did the course.
     
  14. You can work in a school without QTS and for more than a year. Schools can employ who they like, I have been for about 10 years, and have senior position, status and good salary. However, you may find it more difficult to get a job in a school in the first place if you haven't got QTS, however, psychology teachers are in short supply. Many psychology teachers in school have post compulsory PGCE's, some have converted to QTS via the GTP, but if you are teaching mainly sixth form and you're good, it is likely you will be considered as qualified anyway. After all the post compulsory is a specialist teaching qualification for age range and most LA's and schools now recognise this. If you want to teach lower down the school, you may have more of a problem.
     
  15. Hi, I know these posts are a bit outdated now but if I've got an interview at Manchester Met for the PGCE in Social Sciences and Citizenship next week and I am soo nervous. I was wondering if you could give me any advice about what to expect in the interview?

    Thanks veru much
    Danielle
     
  16. Hi Hannah,

    I have recently been appointed at a Secondary school as a Teaching Assistant, however, i am looking to go into applying for my GTP in order to teach Psychology. I just wondered how you approached the schools, was it just by randomly emailing them to see if the worked alongside the GTP route or????

    Also i just wondered whether you applied to the school first or the provider first? i am just confused as to which way to get onto the GTP.

    Thanks

    Leanne
     

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