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Too late to apply ?

Discussion in 'Thinking of teaching' started by lyncorn, Jul 2, 2016.

  1. lyncorn

    lyncorn New commenter

    Hi all,
    I'm aware that I have left things very late but I'm wondering whether to apply for teaching to start September, I know that I may not even be able to get a place but also I haven't left any time to get classroom experience before summer holidays. Is it worth even considering applying? I have 4 kids and am actively involved in their schooling and have previously volunteered at my local Surestart centre I know its not a classroom setting bit would it count for anything? I'd try to approach schools now but am aware there's only 3 weeks left till summer and everyone will be busy and plus they might request a dbs (I have had one for my volunteer position but cannot find it ) any advice welcome . I know there's always next year but if I could get on for September I'd prefer it as I'm not getting any younger
  2. blueskydreaming

    blueskydreaming Lead commenter

    Hi @lyncorn, I don't think anyone will consider you without having spent time in the classroom. You need to get the experience in order to get some understanding of the day-to-day realities of teaching, and while you're doing it speak to some teachers about workload etc.

    Even if there are still vacancies on UCAS the application process can take a while - you need to complete and submit your application, it needs to be processed, your 2 references need to be contacted, submitted and processed, then your PGCE choices will be sent the application, then they need to look at it, then invite you to interview, then offer you a place. If you are offered a place you need to pass the skills tests before the course starts, complete the DBS check, get all your documents together to register at uni, etc. Depending on the ages of your kids you'd need to sort childcare/after school provision, etc.

    Are you thinking of primary or secondary?

    Don't worry about your age - I'm in my late 30s, and there was a mixture of ages on my PGCE last year.
  3. peakster

    peakster Star commenter

    Too late for this year - try next
  4. mandala1

    mandala1 Occasional commenter

    For Primary programmes, providers will only be recruiting to replace trainees who have had to decline a previously offered place eg because of failed skills tests - I'm not aware of anyone who is actually doing that currently. You will struggle to get an interview without meaningful classroom experience - it really is too late now. Spend the time between now and the end of term arranging experience for September/October, ready for when UCAS opens in late October.
  5. DYNAMO67

    DYNAMO67 Lead commenter

    agree with the above. I am also concerned that you haven't really thought about the logistics of this. Training to teach with 4 kids is going to be hard... You should not even consider applying either without experience of schools. You probably wouldn't get anywhere anyway, but you can't make a judgment call without seeing it first hand.
    wanet likes this.
  6. Findlotte

    Findlotte Established commenter

    It's not just the experience, it's the skills tests that providers want you to pass.
    Most providers are holding induction days in the next few weeks too.

    Maybe volunteer over summer? A summer camp, or children's charity?
  7. questionsandanswers

    questionsandanswers Occasional commenter

    Use the UCAS search tool to see who is still offering, some people may have declined their offers.

    Good luck:)
  8. DYNAMO67

    DYNAMO67 Lead commenter

    You are right with the skills test, but unless the OP is teaching a shortage subject then it is immaterial as they have no experience.

    Volunteering or anything out of education is not going to make much difference. It isn't experience of a school and the process of teaching.
  9. Dr_G-nome

    Dr_G-nome New commenter

    And even if you :

    - Have a 2:1 and a doctorate in a so called shortage Science subject.
    - 2 years plus experience working as a specialist Science TA in a secondary school - including having taught A level Biology with good feedback from pupils and staff (unofficially for cover).
    - Applied through UCAS late 2015, having had several senior colleagues vet your personal statement.
    - Had a Premier Plus advisor (who also vetted your personal statement).
    -Have completed the skills tests.
    -Have volunteered as a Scout Leader for many years.
    - Have a passion to teach (have had for many years but was unable due to living abroad - but volunteered at Primary level abroad).
    - Have a passion for Science, and are willing to teach Biology and or Chemistry.
    - Have the life experience, maturity, stability and determination to succeed and get through what I know to be a very tough training.

    You still might it hard to get a teacher training place .....as has been my personal experience.

    Whoever says there is a shortage of Science teachers is clearly unhinged - they are turning good candidates away.....

    Of course this is just my personal experience, but I also know of several very good maths TA's who have had the same issues.

    Sorry to be so negative - teaching is what I really want to do...

    I really do hope you have more luck in achieving your goal!

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