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To Canadian teachers: Protocol? Timeplan? UK teaching in general??

Discussion in 'Overseas trained teachers' started by scrobbie, Nov 6, 2004.

  1. Nice to see a positive post from someone who has worked in both systems. I think a lot of what happens at schools depends on the specific school, just like here in Ontario. I have made contact with Select Education, as I am coming over in April and wanted to speak with someone. My contact here said she would get back to me, but has not. I am wondering if it worth pursueing them since there are so many other agencies.
     
  2. Hi I just saw your post. I was actually thinking of migrating to Canada if I dont get a job in UK this year as I am on a student visa. With my UK qualifications which states can i apply to and can you give me some information please related to getting a job there. anything would help coz i dont even know where to start.
     

  3. Start with googling "Canada" and boning up on some facts about the country. If you think Canada has "states", you've got a lot of homework to do before you should even think of going there. The teaching job market is incredibly tight and competitive. I'm Canadian and taught there for years before I moved to the UK to teach.
     
  4. How long have you been teaching in the UK? I suspect that you like it since you are still there. I agree the job market in Canada, certainly Ontario, is very competitive...unless you have french.
     
  5. Hi everyone. I taught in London for three years before opening up Classroom Canada to help other Canadian teachers make the move to the UK. I love what I do & am happy to help.
    Check out the Classroom Canada website, the Classroom Canada blog and the ebook I wrote to help called Guide to Teaching in London: A Survival Guide for Canadians. Even if you don't work with Classroom Canada, the resources will help you to learn more about teaching in the UK. I am on a personal mission to make the whole process much smoother & it's working so far.
    Just so you know, I worked for another agency before starting this one & also had dodgy experiences - many lies were told by the staff, but luckily I was able to do some solid research, leave that agency & join a much better, more professional and supportive agency with Classroom Ltd. I don't want this to seem like a sales pitch, but I do think you're on here to do your own research so it's important to know why agencies exist as they do.
    Good luck & happy teaching!
    Victoria Westcott (owner of Classroom Canada)

     
  6. Does your agency only find work in London? I am looking to work in the West Midlands.
     
  7. Hello fellow Canadian teachers!
    I have taught for several years at home in Alberta and have been teaching here in the UK (London and Essex) for 4 of the last 5 years.
    I've had similar experiences in both countries as all of my schools have been pretty positive places to be and my principals / headteachers have been good people who back their staff.
    I did learn a few things to find my level as a teacher here in the UK:
    • Most Uk primary classrooms have a TA. Yay!!!
    • Most UK primary classrooms have an Interractive Whiteboard... they're easy to use and II love mine to bits.
    • OFSTED exists. They are the department in charge of overseeing schools. Their process has improved a lot over the last few years. It's still an intense couple of days when they come in but my latest (2008) inspection was not too painful. I would advise against taking a post in a school classified as "In Special Measures" as OFSTED is likely to be breathing down your neck.
    • Planning in the UK is often expected to be much more detailed than in Canada. Most heads of year or headteachers expect you to hand in your printed plans every week so they can look them over.
    • PPA (Preparation, Planning and Assessment time) exists. 10% of your teaching hours are given to you as non-contact (no kids!) time. A full time teacher therefore gets a 1/2 day a week or a full day every 2 weeks to get stuff done. It's brilliant!
    • Work permits are a challenge. My spouse is an EEA citizen which makes things a bit easier for me... but only a *bit.* I had a WHM visa and successfully extended that with the support of my fabulous headteacher who sponsored me.
    • QTS (Qualified Teacher Status) exists. You have a limited amount if time during which you can teach with your Overseas Degree. (4 years when last I checked but this may have changed.) Before that time is up you need to have gone through an inspection and interview process to get approved by the UK as a "Qualified Teacher." (Lots of posts on here about QTS. Mine was successful and I'm happy to give advice.
    • Teaching agencies exist. I got my first position with Protocol Teachers. They were pretty good to me... but they specialise in temporary cover which means getting paid weekly. If you have a sick day or a holiday then you don't get paid. It's a good way to start but if you get a chance at a contract you might want to grab it.
    So, teaching in the UK is similar and different from teaching at home. It has been a good experience for me. Almost all the stress I have experienced on the job here was stress I already experienced in Alberta. The same goes for all the successes.
    Good luck! (And good skill because it's not all luck!)



     
  8. What a great post, full of great info. I am looking to go over next year with Protocol as a daily supply, at least to start. How do I know what my daily rate of pay should be? I am in my 6th year as a teacher, most of it doing daily supply.
     
  9. Hello! Sorry this response is so late. I've been a busy bunny and away from TES.
    I'm not exactly sure what the going daily rate is right now in the UK as I've been on contract for the last 3 years. Most of the advertisements are for 100 to 140 pounds a day.
    Anyone else have an inside scoop on daily rates of pay?
    Which brings me to another Canada-> UK difference: a teacher's pay is negotiable here. I'm still learning how to bargain. Yeesh. That's something they didn't teach us back home!
    X

     
  10. Here's a blog post I wrote about QTS, pay from agencies & schools and what to expect:
    http://classroomcanada.blogspot.com/2009/03/what-is-qts-and-do-you-need-it-as.html
    I hope it helps you understand teacher's pay in the UK more, and how having QTS helps. It also explains a bit more about agencies & why schools & teachers use them.
    Feel free to email directly should you wish to discuss this further.
    Cheers,
    Victoria Westcott
    www.classroomcanada.com
    www.classroomcanada.blogspot.com
    victoria@classroomcanada.com

     
  11. BigFrankEM

    BigFrankEM Established commenter

    "Contributions" (sic), such as the above, which are used as a sales pitch for a commercial product operated by the poster (in flagrant breach of the terms of the site) are too contemptible to merit consideration still less reply.

    Don´t you have any money for your own advertising?

    Don´t you have any shame?
     

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