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Tlr vs ups

Discussion in 'Pay and conditions' started by keighleygardiner, Jul 9, 2019.

  1. keighleygardiner

    keighleygardiner New commenter

    I want to go through the threshold but I currently receive a tlr for the extra role that I do. Can they remove this to put me on ups?
    What’s the definition/ difference between them?
    Help please.
  2. cheesypop

    cheesypop Senior commenter

    No they can’t.
    Well they shouldn’t.
    UPS is upper pay scale. You can apply for this when you reach the top of Main pay scale. Each school will have their own process to go through this. Many expect two years of successful PM cycles. It should be in your school pay policy. It was created to reward experience, essentially, and to give people a way to go further up the pay scale without having to go for leadership roles (which inevitably took them out of the classroom more).

    TLR is attached to a role, for example a subject coordinator. It means Teaching and Learning Responsibility. There are different sizes of TLR depending on different roles. Again, this should be in your pay policy but it is attached to the role not the person. So if someone else became the subject coordinator instead of you, they would get the TLR.

    You can be on UPS and have a TLR.

    There are three levels of UPS. All have to be applied for. By the time you get to UPS3 you have to show ‘wider school effectiveness’. Some schools have turned this into basically having to do a leadership role, but that isn’t what UPS was originally intended for. Again, check your pay policy.

    Hope that helps.
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  3. Rott Weiler

    Rott Weiler Star commenter Forum guide

    They are unrelated, well, they should be although some heads try to conflate and confuse the two. You can be on Mainscale with a TLR (as you are), on UPR without a TLR, or on UPR with a TLR depending what job you are actually doing.

    Being paid on UPR recognises you as a classroom teacher with a high level of competence. A TLR recognises you as having defined management and leadership responsibilities. The two are separate.

    Applying to go onto UPR should not, in itself, make any difference to your TLR.

    Formally, the definitions in STPCD are:

    For UPR

    15.2. An application from a qualified teacher will be successful where the relevant body is satisfied:

    a) that the teacher is highly competent in all elements of the relevant standards; and
    b) that the teacher’s achievements and contribution to an educational setting or settings are substantial and sustained.
    For TLR1/TLR2

    20.4. … before awarding any TLR the relevant body must be satisfied that the teacher’s duties include a significant responsibility that is not required of all classroom teachers and that:

    a) is focused on teaching and learning;
    b) requires the exercise of a teacher’s professional skills and judgement;
    c) requires the teacher to lead, manage and develop a subject or curriculum area; or to lead and manage pupil development across the curriculum;
    d) has an impact on the educational progress of pupils other than the teacher’s assigned classes or groups of pupils; and
    e) involves leading, developing and enhancing the teaching practice of other staff.
    20.5. In addition, before awarding a TLR1, the relevant body must be satisfied that the sustained, additional responsibility referred to in paragraph 20.1 includes line management responsibility for a significant number of people.
    Last edited: Jul 9, 2019
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  4. Piranha

    Piranha Star commenter

    Sorry to be pedantic, but this phrase was used in the days when a teacher went onto the UPS, after which they could never go back down again. Now that promotion to the UPR (as it is now) only has to last as long as you are still employed by the same school, the term "threshold" no longer applies. Which means that you have to be careful when applying for a job in another school.

    As has been pointed out, a TLR goes with a role, and should be the same whoever has that role. If you have a TLR, then your salary is protected for three years if they want to remove/reduce it.

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