Lovely, impressive cakes @marlin and @lilac -I wish we could taste them all. @lilac-yes, I used potato and turnip and onion. On this occasion I used mince -but purely because the mince needed eating up. I do have some beef skirt in the freezer that I bought from the Farmer's market last weekend, ready for my next batch. (They are a favourite in our household.) The veggie ones had potato, turnip and butternut squash in them, with a lemon/garlic crème fraiche sauce -just to moisten . @marlin The crimping could have been better-the pasty kept splitting.