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THE TORY PARTY. The great Bernard Levin once said:

Discussion in 'Personal' started by Wanda_the_Wonder, May 30, 2020.

  1. Wanda_the_Wonder

    Wanda_the_Wonder Occasional commenter

    THE TORY PARTY. The great Bernard Levin once said: (I'm paraphrasing here but this is the gist of what he said)
    "Over the years my beliefs, attitudes and opinions have changed on many topics. But on one subject my view remains constant: my utter abhorrence of the Tory Party."

    In light of the magnificent and unprecedented response of the government in respect of Covid-19 - furloughing, government loans, help for the self employed etc. - has the soul of the Tory Party changed since Bernard Levin's day?

    The great Bernard Levin
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  2. Jolly_Roger15

    Jolly_Roger15 Star commenter

    A great, and decent, man, whose wisdom is sadly missed. Someone said of him that he was one of the few people who could use a semicolon properly.
  3. irs1054

    irs1054 Star commenter

    I don't know if your description the Government response was meant to be ironic but it is certainly hilarious. Let's just say they didn't really have much of a choice in the matter.

    The Tory Party has essentially always been for two things: small state and free market. In addition, they about being in power, the people who are in the Tory Party believe in the "born to rule" concept.
    Things which the British people adore such as the Welfare State and the NHS are an anathema to the Tory Party because they would like to get rid of them (small state, remember) but can't because they recognise they wouldn't stay in power, so they have to pretend to like.

    The current mob in charge are extremists, they have an extreme view of the free market (which is why they hate the EU with a vengeance) and they want nothing more than to do away with things like the NHS (which is why they hate the EU with a vengeance).

    They are also very lazy intellectually which is why the current mob are so incompetent. They can't be bothered with anything like a critical analysis of their (very flawed) ideas so they have absolutely no idea of the possible consequences of any of their actions might be.

    They also only represent only a small part of the Tory Party so although they currently have the ascendency there is every possibility of some sort of a showdown in the future. (possibly not to distant)

    So although the current mob have put in place reasonable measures it needs to be remembered that they are doing so through gritted teeth which is why they place so much on following the science even though it is obvious they have not always done so.
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  4. physicsfanboy

    physicsfanboy Occasional commenter

    It's hilarious that the current hard right, free market, libertarian tories are saving capitalism with socialism.
  5. oldsomeman

    oldsomeman Star commenter

    yet another anti tory party thread.
    This forum becomes awash with such threads and unfortunately often the same observations are trotted out±
  6. Wanda_the_Wonder

    Wanda_the_Wonder Occasional commenter

    'yet another anti tory party thread.' ???

    Please read my post. This is NOT an anti-Tory Party thread! Or am I anti-Tory. I am asking that the Tory Party be given credit where credit is due. The measures brought in to combat the Covid-19 crisis are as radical as any brought in through great reforms and initiatives of the 1945 Labour Government.

    Credit where it's due please.
  7. ilovesooty

    ilovesooty Star commenter

    Would you care to spell out the Tory party's achievements in government since 2010?
  8. burajda

    burajda Star commenter

    Dont worry, socialism will soon be abandoned and it will be Austerity 2.0. The Labour Party will not oppose it.
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  9. Ivartheboneless

    Ivartheboneless Star commenter

    But you can't escape the truth, even when it hurts, and even when it does not appear in those tabloid rags you read.
    afterdark likes this.
  10. Ivartheboneless

    Ivartheboneless Star commenter

    So it isn't actually Bernard levin who said anything, just in the imaginationof Gene, throwing yet another pointless pompous thread out for reasons of egotistical psychopathy?
  11. needabreak

    needabreak Star commenter

    They might get elected next time then.
  12. burajda

    burajda Star commenter

    Hard up but happy, its the will of the people.
  13. florian gassmann

    florian gassmann Star commenter

    I have to say that I always enjoyed Levin's articles and broadcasts, but he never pretended to be even-handed. He always regarded it the role of the editor to ensure that output was balanced, and not his own personal responsibility.

    Are you missing The Good Yarn, old chap? I hear it went downhill before the lockdown.
  14. oldsomeman

    oldsomeman Star commenter

    Myself personally I never liked Levin. He always seemed to get up my nose.
    I did have a DR Levein as a child and he was good...as long as where nor trying to get a sick note when you were not sick!
  15. LondonCanary

    LondonCanary Star commenter

    Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition! Our chief weapon is surprise...surprise and fear...fear and surprise.... our two weapons are fear and surprise...and ruthless efficiency.... Our three weapons are fear, surprise, and ruthless efficiency...and an almost fanatical devotion to the Pope.... Our four...no... amongst our weapons.... amongst our weaponry...are such elements as fear, surprise.... I'll come in again. (exit and exeunt)
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  16. irs1054

    irs1054 Star commenter

    I did actually think about that one but I decide to keep the stay in power as separate.
  17. racroesus

    racroesus Star commenter

    Labour, Libs/Libdems, and Tory leaders all believe that they are the ruling class and we are the ruled class.
  18. needabreak

    needabreak Star commenter

    Clearly on balance it is the will of the people whatever their reasons.
  19. vannie

    vannie Star commenter

    But there’s such a rich vein of material ...
  20. oldsomeman

    oldsomeman Star commenter

    I am waiting for the first person to mine the vein!

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